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Old 02-04-2007, 07:43 PM
McStinky McStinky is offline
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Default another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

This is a hand that I played a little weirdly, but it felt right at the time. Villian is this regular named Dave, who is always there playing 5-10 NL. He seems to think about the game and his opponents a lot (and talks too much), but still screws up a decent amount. He plays pretty straightforward preflop. He probably thinks of me as a solid and somewhat tricky player. Effective stacks $2000.

I limp in from early position with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. He raises to $40 from mid position. Everyone else folds and I call (Pot $100).

FLOP: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I make a weak-looking bet of $50 and he calls (Pot $200).

TURN: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet $50 again just because it feels right. He raises to $250. I think for a few seconds and call (Pot $700).

RIVER: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check. He bets $650. What do I do? At this point I feel like I may have induced him to bluff at me with TT or JJ, but maybe that is wishful thinking. If not, what does he have?
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

Wtf what kind of trainwreck is this.
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

I figure this would be a bad line against a good player, but keep in mind that I am trying to size my bets to induce a weaker player to stick in a bunch of money as a big underdog. Maybe this is just a "feel" hand. Or maybe I am an idiot. Somebody tell me what I should have done.
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

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I figure this would be a bad line against a good player, but keep in mind that I am trying to size my bets to induce a weaker player to stick in a bunch of money as a big underdog. Maybe this is just a "feel" hand. Or maybe I am an idiot. Somebody tell me what I should have done.

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what?
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

this is so gross on every street
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

i'm assuming you played the hand that way so he would bluff you. you got your wish, you're gonna fold now?

i prob call as played given your description of villain but i would've never played that way in the first place.
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

You need to bet like a man, not like a scared little girl.
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

I dont like the way you played the hand, but if you were trying to induce a bluff from a weaker player then you should call because you got what you wanted.
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

You've played the hand so strangely that this could easily be a valuebet from as weaker king. Your hand looks like something like 66-JJ/K9 or worse, so he could very easily be taking this line for value with a worse hand. Or he could very easily be trying to push you off. If you're behind I expect him to show KQ/AA. AK is also very likely.

Anyways, there's a great chance you've induced him to bluff you or value-bet a worse hand. Now call.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: another hand against a foxwoods regular 5-10 NL

PF: If this is you mixing up your play, that's fine. I wouldn't recommend limp-calling OOP with unmade hands (even AK) as your standard line, but its not unforgiveable if the circumstances are correct.

Flop: This seems ridiculous. Are you trying to elicit a raise here? You've added deception to your hand by limp-calling PF, there's no way he's putting you on TPTK at this point. When you expressly under-rep your hand the way you have here, you need to be doing it for a reason (to extract more value later in the hand, hopefully). Why give away any of your strength by making a weak lead at the pot if he's not so aggressive that he's nearly guaranteed to raise you ATC.

Turn: Ok, the jig is up, we've lost a good portion of the deception we've earned PF, its time to gain a little bit of value. If you don't think he's doing your betting for you, please make a real bet, not 1/4 of the pot. Once you bet weakly, and he raises you, there's pretty much only one line that makes any sense whatsoever, and that's calling here and check-calling pretty much any river.

River: At this point, the only thing you can do is check-call and hope that your odd (weak) play has induced the villain to fire off a bluff.

I literally play every street differently, but I particularly dislike the line you took on the flop and on the turn. The river decision, as strangely as you've played the hand seems pretty straightforward.

You're absolutely begging to be taken off of this hand on every street, why are you surprised that he's betting nearly the pot on the river?
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