Carbon Tax or Cap and Trade

[tomdemaine]

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so why would suppliers lobby for a quota? right now they can pollute (emit) all they want for free. would a quota be preferable to an energy supplier over an equivalent tax?

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Not sure, sounds like they get an edge on their competition. If you're a big enough player you can basically make your competition pay higher prices for the same thing because you can control price since you're a bigger player. Also you can lobby Congress to get special treatment and get it since you've got more dough.

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[Moseley]

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Which is better and why?

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Shawny,

If we have no choice but to have one or the other implemented, then the one that gives the U.S. Government less money is our best alternative.

The United States Government has to be the most incompetent, wasteful, corrupt government of the 7 largest industrialized nations.

If you disagree, take a trip to Iraq and check out the 700 million dollar embassy that isn't close to being finished yet. Or, see if you can find the sources required to tally up all the billions we have spent on contractors in Iraq and the waste involved, and confirm my understanding that not a single individual of any of those corporations have been brought up on charges yet.

Oh, by the way, there is a bill (the defense bill) before congress with an earmark for 3 million dollars for a First Tee Program on the military bases for children of our military personnel.

Now, I value my military as much as the next guy, however, if Tiger can get private funds for his program, that's where it should come from for the dependents of the military.

Or take a look at the surplus of federal monies collected thru gasoline taxes, which by law, is to be used for nothing but infrastructure, and instead has been used to help pay the deficit while our roads/bridges are decaying.

Did they not offer a class in United States Government Waste, Corruption and Incompentence in your college? Or, did they feed you the same bull I was fed years ago?

Maybe you went to the same college as the founder of Fedex, who did his thesis on such a company and had his professor fail him for not taking into account all the federal regulations involved that would make such a company impossible to create, much less make a profit.