my cards get mucked, standard?

[JDesab]

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Rule #1 is Protect Your Hand. This manifests in many ways, but putting a chip on them to protect them is top among them.

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no, the best way to protect your hand, and what i do until all preflop betting is complete, is to keep your hand on your cards. whether it be three fingers on the felt in front of the cards and my thumb behind it ... or my fingers over half of my card (allowing the table to see i have cards).

this has been my practice ever since i had a hand killed in a similar way that OP describes. when the action gets to me i can quickly check my hand... then i put a chip on top of my cards if i choose not to muck.

the highest probability of your hand being hit by mucked cards is during the preflop round of betting.

[JDesab]

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i was dealing (and playing) at a poker tourney yesterday when 2 players went to the flop and i was gathering all folded hands. i accidently collected one active players cards and he pointed this out to me. i decided the best course of action was for him to whisper me his cards ( he is good player therefore can remember the suit(s) ) and he whispered AdQd ( which bore no relevence to the flop)and in the pile of folded cards AdQd were next to eachother. so i gave him them. everyone seemed happy with the way it was handled but i wasnt sure if it was the "correct" way. ruling plz?

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no it was not.

unfortunately, once the dealer mucks a hand, there is nothing that can be done to retrieve it. at the games i have dealt ... the mucked hand has his preflop bet returned to him. i've never seen it happen on later streets so i don't know what (if any) chips should be returned to the player.

[popeye18]

After thinking about it some more i realize this was really the only course of action to be taken. I was in the ten seat for the first time at a table like this(with the wooden panel around the edge) so i really wasnt aware of how easy it would be for it to happen. BB had no intention of doing it and felt pretty bad so i didnt care at all, it was a simple accident. I learned my lesson and will be better at protecting my cards now.

[chillrob]

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I think it is standard, but also the BB should be at the least severely warned. If he ever does anything like this again (not just the same night, but any night), he should be punished, up to being banned from the game.

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Are you assuming this was intentional, because I sort of assumed it was an accident.

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I was assuming it was not really intentional, but done by a dumbass who is acting recklessly, affecting other people's money. It is pretty tough to much someone else's cards with your own unless you are really being stupid.

I don't think drunk drivers kill people intentionally either, but I still think they should be severely punished (almost to the extent that a murderer is).

Rob

[Sir Folds A Lot]

+1 to all who said to use a card cover, usually a chip. The local B&M dealers will hound you until you start using one because they hate to have to muck someone's cards, but that is the rule, so if you want to run a tight game, or play in a tightly run game, cover your card, or be ready to surrender your cowboys.

[Lottery Larry]

Generally standard. Muck-tosser should be warned (but since your later reply said it wasn't intentional, make it mild) and you definately need to protect your cards better.

I got mucked out of a tourney, 3 spots from the money, after re-raising and going all-in... in a B&M casino.

[Lottery Larry]

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i decided the best course of action was for him to whisper me his cards ( he is good player therefore can remember the suit(s) ) and he whispered AdQd ( which bore no relevence to the flop)and in the pile of folded cards AdQd were next to eachother. so i gave him them. everyone seemed happy with the way it was handled but i wasnt sure if it was the "correct" way. ruling plz?

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no it was not.

unfortunately, once the dealer mucks a hand, there is nothing that can be done to retrieve it.

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Disagree partially, JDesab. I think you should hold "the good of the game" over any specific rule, when the actions of the player in question did not cause most of the problem.

However, Merton0806, you open a slippery slope when you start digging cards out from a pile (as opposed to easily identifiable without digging). If everyone trusts everyone else, that's great.... but it could be a flashpoint if the wrong person gets cards back... or if someone else gets knocked out of the tourney as a result.

Balance the two ideas, but lean towards killing the hand and the victim learning an important lesson that they will carry with them throughout their card playing experiences.

[DavidNB]

A tought thing to happen having cards mucked. Anyways, at my home game we muck into the pot and/or towards the pot. Sometimes a player will collect the mucked cards and get them ready for the next dealer in which case we muck to him. We don't have a rule forcing any of this

[bacats32]

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with 3000+ posts and you are in awe of a 10 man nice table with a race track and didn't know to cover your hand. Want to come to my game. You are welcome anytime.

[TheChad]

yeah, it's std. protect your hand. I normally just cage my cards with my fingertips. that way I can just freeze and the dealer can pull the tossed cards away. Then I can lift my fingers away and my hand is still there. (sometimes I'll use a chip too)