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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
bet/fold (NITS) 0 0%
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  #1021  
Old 09-19-2007, 08:07 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

I kinda like the b/c/b line in these spots
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:14 PM
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Woot best month evar in SNG's

Beat: I now suck so hard playing more than 20bbs so at the cash not only do I suck but I think i'm running bad too. nit sure I might just suck.

So far the month is negative [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Villian was about 16/8, I have a pretty loose image especially in position, and villian has commented on it - so I think his range is larger for a re-steal on me.

Do you like the PF re-raise (should it be more?), and now what do you do on the flop. I feel like most hands that beat me would check to me here, as I've c-bet just about every flop so far.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($7)
UTG+1 ($8.45)
MP1 ($25.70)
MP2 ($31.80)
MP3 ($9.85)
Hero ($63.95)
Button ($24.75)
SB ($14.75)
BB ($32.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($16.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, Hero ???
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Is UTG fishy aggro or not?

If he's gonna bet a worse PP when you check, then I like checking. You will definitely find out where you stand vs. SB before it gets back to you. Depending on what hands you think they are willing to felt you can CRAI if you think you are good.

If UTG is passive/slowplayer then I don't like checking so much because they are likely to float and go for showdown with worse pocket pairs and you are way ahead and an A or K hitting will either kill you or your action.

I don't really like bet/folding unless it's like bet-call-raise or something. It might not be the greatest bluff flop, but they can either think they are good with TT or think they can get away with repping a Q.

How about thinking about it like this? If you bet you're repping AA/KK and maybe that's not a good thing to do here. Better to check and rep AK scared to bet into 2 people? CRAI could still be put on AK and called by worse?
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

micro- he was def loose/passive and not aggro at all. if SB and UTG were in opposite positions i would def CRAI
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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calling a shove/shoving any turn? b/c a bet of like $140 leaves me w/ like $212 behind in a $480+ pot if called

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I dont think you can get away from this hand. I dont think dough calls 2 raises oop w/a suited connector like QJ or KQ. So he has a pair almost always i think. So only 55 beats you. If your going to check this flop it should be to ch/shove flop or raise a turn bet all in.

Which i dont like doing, so i'd just bet/call the flop. If they dont raise just take devins line of b/c/b.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:45 PM
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calling a shove/shoving any turn? b/c a bet of like $140 leaves me w/ like $212 behind in a $480+ pot if called

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I dont think you can get away from this hand. I dont think dough calls 2 raises oop w/a suited connector like QJ or KQ. So he has a pair almost always i think. So only 55 beats you. If your going to check this flop it should be to ch/shove flop or raise a turn bet all in.

Which i dont like doing, so i'd just bet/call the flop. If they dont raise just take devins line of b/c/b.

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $530.00
Hero (BB): $420.00
UTG: $382.90
MP: $534.80
CO: $516.20
BTN: $374.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16.00</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $14.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $68.00</font>, UTG calls $52.00, SB calls $52.00

Flop: ($204) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $125.00</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $352.00</font>, Hero calls all-in for $227.00

Turn: ($908) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($908) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $908.00 ($3 Rake)

SB had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$420.00)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Jacks) and WON (+$485.00)
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:52 PM
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Bhokie,

You're probably right. He's gonna have a pocket pair the missed a lot here. I'd raise and fold to a 3bet unless you think he's really out to get you. If he calls, he's almost always checking the turn. You check behind and then either call or value bet river if checked to.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:58 PM
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Villian was about 16/8, I have a pretty loose image especially in position, and villian has commented on it - so I think his range is larger for a re-steal on me.

Do you like the PF re-raise (should it be more?), and now what do you do on the flop. I feel like most hands that beat me would check to me here, as I've c-bet just about every flop so far.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($7)
UTG+1 ($8.45)
MP1 ($25.70)
MP2 ($31.80)
MP3 ($9.85)
Hero ($63.95)
Button ($24.75)
SB ($14.75)
BB ($32.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($16.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, Hero ???

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if you think he's out to get you then i would call all the way down, since not many suited hands are in his range at this point i wouldnt worry a/b the FD too much on the flop.
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:14 PM
BHokie1 BHokie1 is offline
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Bhokie,

You're probably right. He's gonna have a pocket pair the missed a lot here. I'd raise and fold to a 3bet unless you think he's really out to get you. If he calls, he's almost always checking the turn. You check behind and then either call or value bet river if checked to.

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How much would you raise here?

Pot is $21.10 with his lead now and he only has ~$19 left behind.

FD (Never see you AIM anymore bro) -

I'm leaning towards a call on the flop instead of a raise.

Am I just bloating the pot preflop too much with AJo here, felt like I might be in LAG Overdrive with the 4 bet PF.
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