$11 45 on Stars - 88 UTG seven handed

Cleverbeans · #1 09-19-2007, 06:11 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t12350)
BB (t9170)
Hero (t9505)
MP1 (t7434)
MP2 (t15416)
CO (t4125)
Button (t9500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t1500, 4 folds, SB calls t1200, 1 fold.

Flop: (t3000) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t2000, SB raises to t10800, Hero calls t5955 (All-In).

Turn: (t21755) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t21755) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t21755

Thoughts?

tomek322 · #2 09-19-2007, 06:22 PM

standard... sorry you lost

Crash0veride · #3 09-19-2007, 06:24 PM

what's your image like. what does hero think of you and what do you think of hero.

Without any reads, it's close but I think I play it the same way you did.

usha · #4 09-19-2007, 06:40 PM

Reads are very important here as well as your table image.
If you have a tight image and wasn't caught cbetting a lot, I would say you are up against 66 maaaybe 55, but mostly 99-JJ (QQ now and then).

erc007 · #5 09-19-2007, 06:44 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t12350)
BB (t9170)
Hero (t9505)
MP1 (t7434)
MP2 (t15416)
CO (t4125)
Button (t9500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t1500, 4 folds, SB calls t1200, 1 fold.

Flop: (t3000) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t2000, SB raises to t10800, Hero calls t5955 (All-In).

Turn: (t21755) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t21755) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t21755

Thoughts?

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This looks fine/std. I think that a lot of players will play 55;66;56s the same way enough times to make this call EV+...

usha · #6 09-19-2007, 06:56 PM

erc, using ur range we get:

Board: 4h 4s 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.179% 41.18% 00.00% 16307 0.00 { 8d8s }
Hand 1: 58.821% 58.82% 00.00% 23293 0.00 { QQ-99, 66-55, 65s }

Your getting 2.65 to 1 on a call here, so this is indeed +EV, but I think this is almost never 56s due to PF. Without it we are getting 37% equity, which can reach 40-42% if give QQ less freq.

So, overall, this is still +EV.

Nice hand.

erc007 · #7 09-19-2007, 07:16 PM

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erc, using ur range we get:

Board: 4h 4s 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.179% 41.18% 00.00% 16307 0.00 { 8d8s }
Hand 1: 58.821% 58.82% 00.00% 23293 0.00 { QQ-99, 66-55, 65s }

Your getting 2.65 to 1 on a call here, so this is indeed +EV, but I think this is almost never 56s due to PF. Without it we are getting 37% equity, which can reach 40-42% if give QQ less freq.

So, overall, this is still +EV.

Nice hand.

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Agree on discounting 56s...and thx for stoving it (lazy here) [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Cleverbeans · #8 09-19-2007, 07:27 PM

My image was loose as the bubble just burst and I had been exploiting it mercilessly. I think I c-bet every time I open raised from the start of the tourney.

erc007 · #9 09-19-2007, 07:35 PM

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My image was loose as the bubble just burst and I had been exploiting it mercilessly. I think I c-bet every time I open raised from the start of the tourney.

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This is pretty important info... but i guess if u included it in OP, there wouldn't be much to discuss...(easy call)

usha · #10 09-19-2007, 07:36 PM

Then this makes it an easier call, as villain could be shoving here with a much wider range like 67,78 and even A7s.