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Old 11-28-2007, 05:56 PM
Zygote Zygote is offline
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this is as stupid as placing sanctions on iran and holding the entire iranian nation responsible for the crimes of a few.

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But with Iran we aren't talking about the actions of a few isolated citizens even, but those of the *government*. And it's *their* government so if the Iranians don't want the consequences that come from the actions of *their* government then they should do something about. And the fact that they would put their lives in jeopardy to do so isn't *our* problem.

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lets think a little deeper than these simple labels. this our world so we must be responsible for the crimes of our world and should implode ourselves as punishment?

iran has a very young and pro western population. the government and their supporters are more limited by the day and the other side will do something about if we stop getting in the way and helping the government gain support by not recognizing our allies and making false and generalized groupings and sentences.

iran would never have adopted the mullahs and allowed them to maintain their power if we weren't messing around.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:01 PM
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iran has a very young and pro western population. the government and their supporters are more limited by the day and the other side will do something about if we stop getting in the way and helping the government gain support by not recognizing our allies and making false and generalized groupings and sentences.

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Yeah if we just stop defending ourselves and demanding Iran doesn't perpetrate or fund terrorist actions or attacks on other nations, then those mythical "moderate pro-western" types will bring about a change in their government. Sorry but I'm not accepting your offer to buy the mid-east version of the Brooklyn Bridge.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:17 PM
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if we just stop defending ourselves and demanding Iran doesn't perpetrate or fund terrorist actions or attacks on other nations, then those mythical "moderate pro-western" types will bring about a change in their government.

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They were making progress toward this until Iran joined the Axis of Evil with their moderate democratically elected president.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:23 PM
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They were making progress toward this until Iran joined the Axis of Evil with their moderate democratically elected president.

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"moderate"? Hahahaha. Nice way of skewing the standard. On a scale of 1 to 10, "8" is a moderate because it's further away from the extreme, even though it is further yet from the true middle. This isn't a bell curve in one of your college classes, it's an absolute scale.

When any extremist organization/country puts one of its *relatively* "moderate" (i.e. less extreme but still extreme) members out front as its mouthpiece, while the real power is still wielded by the most extreme, that isn't any true indication of change.

It's actions and substance that matter and not rhetoric and appearances.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:45 PM
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if we just stop defending ourselves and demanding Iran doesn't perpetrate or fund terrorist actions or attacks on other nations, then those mythical "moderate pro-western" types will bring about a change in their government.

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They were making progress toward this until Iran joined the Axis of Evil with their [sarcasm]moderate democratically elected president[/sarcasm].

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You forgot the sarcasm tags right??
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