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Old 06-08-2006, 03:29 PM
AAAAK AAAAK is offline
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Default Suspicious hand

I want to post this hand everywhere because it seems very suspicious..........This player that beat me was not an amateur, he knew how to play and won most of the hands he was in. Somebody PLEASE tell me how he could have even been in this hand let alone catch a gut card on the river for the straight.


#Game No : 4427477816
***** Hand History for Game 4427477816 *****
$10/$20 7 Card Stud - Friday, June 02, 23:42:57 ET 2006
Table Table 96608 (Real Money)
Seat 0 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Chen88888 ( $506.46 )
Seat 3: HK888 ( $725 )
Seat 4: Jack_Wilson ( $423.50 )
Seat 6: dasch_2000 ( $396 )
Seat 2: GmanT_584 ( $571 )
Seat 7: MAXabc ( $766 )
Seat 8: SistaD ( $351.50 )
Seat 5: Radar2255 ( $138.01 )
Chen88888 posts ante [$1].
GmanT_584 posts ante [$1].
Jack_Wilson posts ante [$1].
dasch_2000 posts ante [$1].
SistaD posts ante [$1].
** Dealing **
Dealt to dasch_2000 [ Qd 7h Qh ]
Chen88888 opens.
Chen88888 bring-ins [$3].
GmanT_584 calls [$3].
Jack_Wilson folds.
dasch_2000 completes [$10].
SistaD folds.
Chen88888 calls [$7].
GmanT_584 calls [$7].
** Dealing Fourth street **
Dealt to dasch_2000 [ Kc ]
dasch_2000 opens.
dasch_2000 bets [$10].
Chen88888 calls [$10].
GmanT_584 folds.
** Dealing Fifth street **
Dealt to dasch_2000 [ 2h ]
dasch_2000 opens.
dasch_2000 bets [$20].
Chen88888 calls [$20].
** Dealing Sixth street **
Dealt to dasch_2000 [ 8h ]
dasch_2000 opens.
dasch_2000 bets [$20].
Chen88888 calls [$20].
** Dealing River **
Dealt to dasch_2000 [ Ts ]
dasch_2000 opens.
dasch_2000 checks.
Chen88888 bets [$20].
dasch_2000 calls [$20].
Chen88888 shows [ 4s, 6s, 2s, Kh, Jd, 3d, 5d ] a straight, two to six.
dasch_2000 doesn't show [ Qd, 7h, Qh, Kc, 2h, 8h, Ts ] a pair of queens.
Chen88888 wins $173 from the main pot with a straight, two to six

RECAP:
1ST 3 CARDS: 4s,6s,2s he called the raise to 10, nothing wrong there

4th street : 4s,6s,2s,Kh he calls a $10 bet, ok a little loose but hell maybe he gets the 4th spade on 5th street

5th street : 4s,6s,2s,Kh,Jd he calls a $20 bet............WITH WHAT....NOTHING????

6th street : 4s,6s,2s,Kh,Jd,3d he CALLS a $20 bet??????

River : He got a 5d for the gutshot straight.

Another interesting fact: My credit limit at PP was $6000 (and has been for years) when I played in that game and after posting this on another major internet forum it was dropped to $500 the next day. All coincidences? You decide.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:50 PM
Bobber Bobber is offline
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Default Re: Suspicious hand

So, basically, you think Dikshit is out to get you. My diagnosis is paranoia. Is it so unlikely that this player simply just sucks at poker.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:55 PM
PoorLawyer PoorLawyer is offline
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Default Re: Suspicious hand

[ QUOTE ]
So, basically, you think Dikshit is out to get you. My diagnosis is paranoia. Is it so unlikely that this player simply just sucks at poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah seriously. Up to 5th is not that out of line, but hey ive got an overcard so lets peel 5th....sweet, now i have an overcard and a gutshot, thats 7 outs, why not! AWESOME I HIT. I AM GREAT AT POKER!
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:33 PM
Grasshopp3r Grasshopp3r is offline
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Default Re: Suspicious hand

First of all, you are showing the queen doorcard. His read is that you are high only, with at best rolled queens. On 4th, he is now heads up after the fold behind. He did violate the paint rule on 4th, but your king left him pretty wide open to hit the low heads up and also to catch a lucky hand. His 5th street call was -EV, however, the 2 is not one of his outs for the low. He caught a great card on 6th and wanted to see if he could catch again on the river, with a big pot now. Again, it was -EV for him to call. Your 8 on 6th was an out for him, but he correctly read that it did not help you, based upon your board.

You would have been in a tough spot if the folder on 4th decided to reraise. Heads up in this situation after 4th, I am slowing down, but your bets look ok to me on an EV basis. You need to accept that you will get outdrawn some times, even if you make the correct bets.
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:42 PM
PoorLawyer PoorLawyer is offline
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HIT THE LOW? Can you do that in stud high?
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:20 PM
cgrohman cgrohman is offline
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Dikshit sold his interest in Party. This guy played the hand fairly heniously, but some people just tilt when they bring it in and start chasing their money. This is not by far the worst beat I've seen.
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Suspicious hand

[ QUOTE ]
First of all, you are showing the queen doorcard. His read is that you are high only, with at best rolled queens. On 4th, he is now heads up after the fold behind. He did violate the paint rule on 4th, but your king left him pretty wide open to hit the low heads up and also to catch a lucky hand. His 5th street call was -EV, however, the 2 is not one of his outs for the low. He caught a great card on 6th and wanted to see if he could catch again on the river, with a big pot now. Again, it was -EV for him to call. Your 8 on 6th was an out for him, but he correctly read that it did not help you, based upon your board.

You would have been in a tough spot if the folder on 4th decided to reraise. Heads up in this situation after 4th, I am slowing down, but your bets look ok to me on an EV basis. You need to accept that you will get outdrawn some times, even if you make the correct bets.

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This was a 7 card stud high only game
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Suspicious hand

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
So, basically, you think Dikshit is out to get you. My diagnosis is paranoia. Is it so unlikely that this player simply just sucks at poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah seriously. Up to 5th is not that out of line, but hey ive got an overcard so lets peel 5th....sweet, now i have an overcard and a gutshot, thats 7 outs, why not! AWESOME I HIT. I AM GREAT AT POKER!

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I have played with many players who didn't understand the game well and would play like this. In fact, I love playing with players like that because even if they win, you always know the money will be coming back. But this player knew how to play and wasn't on tilt...... that's what makes this hand so odd to me.
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Old 06-08-2006, 06:47 PM
Grasshopp3r Grasshopp3r is offline
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Default Re: Suspicious hand

nevermind, I thought that it was stud hi/lo.
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:17 PM
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I want to post this hand everywhere

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-EV.
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