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Old 06-06-2006, 12:09 PM
LuckyDice LuckyDice is offline
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Default 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

Villain in this hand is a 2+2er and is 21/15/2 over my almost 600 hands. His range to steal blinds is very wide, so my 3-betting range is pretty wide. I think he knows this, but this is the first time I've been 4-bet by him.

My image is pretty TAGish I'd imagine.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $58</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $156</font>

I'd sorta expect him to just call with AA/KK, maybe even QQ/JJ but I'm not certain. So with all the money in the pot, is this a push or a fold?
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Old 06-06-2006, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

impossible to answer, had to be there.
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Old 06-06-2006, 12:18 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

Looks lika aces, fold.
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Old 06-06-2006, 12:20 PM
LuckyDice LuckyDice is offline
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Default Re: 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

klonucko,

so you think I should just go wit my gut?
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

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klonucko,

so you think I should just go wit my gut?

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Your gut is usually right. FWIW I push here.
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

Yea, this is completely image dependent - how often have the two of you been stealing and re-stealing from one another, etc. Sometimes I'll push this without a second thought, other times I will fold without thinking.
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

am i the 2+2er? yesterday i played 11 hours of 400NL
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

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but this is the first time I've been 4-bet by him.

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fold
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

r3vbr,

no, although you were at the table.
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: 400NL 6max: Push preflop vs a 2+2er?

if you've played 600 hands and he's never 4bet you, i'm leaning towards a fold. there are times when i think to myself, "we've played a ton of hands. he's making a move because he knows i'm TAG and i know he's TAG." then i push and see aa/kk.

this move would have some merit if you think he folds his ak/qq to your push. do you think he would?
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