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Old 10-05-2006, 08:10 PM
1234567 1234567 is offline
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Default 32 red autoplay still cheating !

Grrr , this still is not fixed .

last 3 months i deposited 50 everytime got the match ( = 100 ) and let the software autoplay Spanish 21 Black Jack .

I busted 3 times out of 3 flat betting 1$ ( Multihand )

The autoplayer hits f.e. if dealer has a 5 and player has 15 . Or dealer holds 4 and player 13 etc.
I ve double checked the settings for the strategy and everything is entered correctly . The problem is autoplay doesnt seem to care about the strategy settings and plays its own random game ...

Here is the mail conversation till now ( sorry but i was pretty upset when writing it ) :

I am really angry now ! The autoplay feature makes wrong moves ( Blackjack ) !!!



I immediatley want my money back since this is fraudulent !



I ve lost the last 3 months 50 pounds each playing spanish 21 , 5 handed beting 1 $ flat .

Its nearly impossible to lose everything everytime , and now i know why - it is because autoplay makes wrong moves !!!! It buys at 17 when dealer has a 5 !!!!



Im awaiting my funds back i ve lost playing this rigged autoplay - how should i have known this is rigged , all i ve done is controlled the strategy if its set right and it was !!!

Awaiting your response


Here 32 reds response :

Hi XXXXXX,



Thank you for your email & also for your patience whilst we have been dealing with your query.



I am very sorry to hear that you are disappointed with the Autoplay feature on the recent games that you have played.



32Red operates its software system on the design by Microgaming Software Systems, who is the leading developer of Internet gaming software.



Independent auditors have reviewed the game outcomes for Blackjack and Roulette, and confirmed that the Random Number Generator consistently produced random numbers and is a fair basis for the outcome of games that have been played using this random number generator.



Should you require any further assistance please do contact us here at 32Red, we are here 24/7 & we will be happy to help.



Kind regards

Diane
Player Support Representative
32Red Casino | Dashcasino| 32Red Poker
Casinomeister Best Casino 2003, 2004 & 2005



And again my response :
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Umm , did u even read my mail carefully ????



Im not dissapointed by the autoplay function - it simply doesnt work as it should !

This is fraud , and now that i have done some searching in Casino Forums , i ve found out that i am not the only one that got cheated by the autoplay feature . So please dont pretend as if you dont know what i am talking about .

I want my money back for all games i used this feature since it didnt play the strategy it showed it will play !

Or is the strategy it uses random generated ???!!!!!!!!



I say nothing about about how the cards are coming or that they aint shuffled right , i say the autoplay feature plays right cards wrong !

If you dont believe me go and view my games .

There are cases were Autoplay took a card when i had 17 and the dealer had a 5 !!!!

Furter he bought sometimes when i had 13 and the dealer something below 6 !

I ve double checked the strategy and its all set right , but autoplay doesnt seem to care about those rules .

I expect you to solve this issue asap as otherwhise i will have to email casinomeister , post threads at 2 + 2 and hope to get you blacklisted .



I am not more than a normal player that deserves the right for fairness . If you denie refunding me those funds i will do everything thats possible to come to my right .

I dont care much about the 100 or 150 pounds i lost because of the autoplay feature but i do care if i get cheated by someone who pretends to do a trustful buisness .



You may aswell call me for an explanation : 00xxxxxxxxxx .



Oh and last but not least , i donrt care who made the software . i have a contract with 32 red , i deposit money to 32 red , and if my money gets stolen because of the software 32 red is offering me , it IS 32 reds problem !


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Old 10-05-2006, 08:27 PM
joeki joeki is offline
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Default Re: 32 red autoplay still cheating !

Oh dear god [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 10-05-2006, 09:33 PM
Olin Prefleup Olin Prefleup is offline
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Default Re: 32 red autoplay still cheating !

I didnt read all that but... its still cheating and you are still using it [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]?
Just use the non-gold version
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:05 PM
howdydudey howdydudey is offline
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Default Re: 32 red autoplay still cheating !

Why are you not playing vegas strip BJ anyway?; it has a lower HA
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Old 10-05-2006, 11:04 PM
Halo7 Halo7 is offline
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Default Re: 32 red autoplay still cheating !

Multi Hand Atlantic City BJ is the best! 1 minimum, no autoplay errors. Works like a charm every month!
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:42 AM
bigalt bigalt is offline
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Default Re: 32 red autoplay still cheating !

man if i were customer service and I got an email riddled with "u"s and "!!!!!"s I'd probably ignore it too.
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: 32 red autoplay still cheating !

here is their response :

Hi xxxxxxx,



Thank you for your e-mail.



I must inform you that we are not here to steal your money, we are here to provide an excellent service to you and like any other service provider we are responsible for ensuring that you feel completely confident with this service. Customer satisfaction is our main priority.



As you are familiar with the CasinoMeister’s forum you will know that we are a reputable casino indeed. The issues that you have been experiencing will be looked into with the utmost urgency; we will provide you with a detailed explanation for these occurrences.



I will have a manager look into your game play immediately. You will hear back from us as soon as possible with the results of our investigation.



Thank you for your patience so far.



Kind regards,

Emma
Player Support Team Leader


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Well , as i said i was pretty angry when i was writimng the mails .
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:42 AM
Antti Antti is offline
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Default Re: 32 red autoplay still cheating !

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Multi Hand Atlantic City BJ is the best! 1 minimum, no autoplay errors. Works like a charm every month!

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. I've been using it for the 50 match for two months now, and since I'm a person without a life, every now and then I just watch the computer play for me, and I've never seen it deviate from the optimal strategy as mapped in the chart.
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Old 10-06-2006, 10:06 PM
maniacut maniacut is offline
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Default Re: 32 red autoplay still cheating !

single deck vegas gold ftw ~0.2%H.A! don't forget the deviations from basic strategy for single deck BJ (can input into autoplay strategy) and then the deviations from the deviations of basic strategy based on specific hand composition (can't input into autoplay)! (available on WOO)
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: 32 red autoplay still cheating !

this thread delivers
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