new more damning absolute evidence

[sethypooh21]

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he folds pf when his opponents have like KK or AK or QQ, etc

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Yeah I know,
but I want to know what he had when hes folding his hands.
Its IMO a big difference when hes folding some trash hands like 3 2o or some better Hands.

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He has total trash sometimes, but he calls raises regularly with total crap as well. The only times he folds are with total trash and a big pair out - he even OPEN FOLDS a few times if big pairs are behind him...

[jgunnip]

I'd love it if somebody could put together a PXF HH of the cheaters tournament. Or just all the hands that are available.

[TheWacoKidd]

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Nope. The last GRAYCAT hand was

14 896764146 2007-09-12 23:20:27 4090 4090 0 TABLE_USER Dealt to GRAYCAT [2h 6s]

The whole file cuts off because of the excel line limit, so it only has from 9 PM (tourney start) until around 11:20 PM. It's too bad because he only has 4K chips and looks like he's about to bust.

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I'm confused: you say that you only have tourney data up to 11:20pm, but in the P5s thread with ALL of the HHs, it shows ALL of Potripper's hhs, right through 1:50am when he won the tourney with that ridic T high call.

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the master HH Absolute sent Marco cuts off before the final table, but Marco posted the normal FT HH to show potripper winning almost every hand... this thread should have the same HH's as the P5 thread

[N 82 50 24]

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I'd love it if somebody could put together a PXF HH of the cheaters tournament. Or just all the hands that are available.

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I PM'ed mindwise about me giving him a compatible HH file for the PXF replayer. No response thus far.

[Deuce2High]

Absolute poker clears POTRIPPER of any wrongdoing in this situation. The investigation has beeen going on for almost a month now.

I have several close friends who have played this guy headsup on the account DOUBLDRAG as well who are in total down over $100k to the Absolute Poker hackers. These hackers are probably going to be clearing close to a MILLION DOLLARS on accounts GRAYCAT, PAYUP, STEAMROLLER, DOUBLEDRAG, POTRIPPER. It should also be mentioned that all of this money was CHIP DUMPED to other accounts to be cashed out and this chip dumping was basically ignored by Absolute Poker investigators.

I've written a letter to the Kahnawakee gaming comission as I suggest everyone else do the same.

If you are currently not playing on Absolute Poker because of this situation inform Absolute Poker as to why you are not playing on their site.

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN IF WE DO NOT MAKE IT HAPPEN. ABSOLUTE IS PUSHING THIS UNDER THE RUG. THIS IS HE MOST SERIOUSLY DEVASTATING SITUATION THAT ONLINE POKER HAS EVER SEEN. THIS SITUATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT A MONTH NOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IT'S BECUASE WE ARE BEING STONEWALLED.

Sorry for the caps but I am finally sick and tired of this sitation not getting the attention it deserves. Also I am banned from posting on P5s so if someone wants to suggest writing to the Kahnawakee gaming comission and Absolute Poker to P5ers, PLEASE do.

[xTheKidx]

OK
he didnt have very much when he foldet PRF when the other guys had AA but the Hand where he foldet KT

(Raises 82o then just check folds second pair???)
Stage #896714539 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:35:40.009 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #7 is the dealer
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($3024 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($13901 in chips)
Seat 2 - OBV_DONK ($9030 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($47712 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($14313 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($11855 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($10290 in chips)
Seat 7 - CLOVER777 ($7345 in chips)
KOOLKEITH13 - Posts small blind $100
SCARFACE_79 - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to OBV_DONK [2s 10s]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [8c 2h]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Kd 4h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [Kh 5s]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [Jc As]
Dealt to CLOVER777 [6d 7s]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [Jd 4d]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [7h 2c]
OBV_DONK - Folds
POTR0AST - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $800 to $800
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Calls $800
CLOVER777 - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [3s 8h Jh]
POTRIPPER - Checks
JINXY_MONKEY - Bets $1400
POTRIPPER - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - returned ($1400) : not called


(Notice he wont fold 26o utg but he will later fold KQo to no raise in pos when AA dealt behind him)
Stage #896715627 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:36:43.010 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($13681 in chips)
Seat 2 - OBV_DONK ($9010 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($46892 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($14293 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($11835 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($11530 in chips)
Seat 7 - CLOVER777 ($7325 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($2904 in chips)
SCARFACE_79 - Posts small blind $100
OBV_DONK - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to OBV_DONK [10h 7h]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [6s 2h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [6c 4d]
Dealt to POTR0AST [5c 3h]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [7s 3s]
Dealt to CLOVER777 [9s 10s]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [3c Jc]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [8d 4h]
POTRIPPER - Raises $800 to $800
POKERME420 - Folds
POTR0AST - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
CLOVER777 - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
OBV_DONK - Folds
POTRIPPER - returned ($600) : not called

Stage #896705741 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:27:40.006 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($15461 in chips)
Seat 2 - OBV_DONK ($10240 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($31923 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14815 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($15173 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($9783 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($6790 in chips)
SCARFACE_79 - Posts small blind $100
BIGREDAK86 - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [Jh 2c]
Dealt to OBV_DONK [4h Js]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [Ks Qd]
Dealt to POTR0AST [10s 7d]
Dealt to POKERME420 [Ad 7c]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [2d 10h]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [9s 9d]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [9h 9c]
OBV_DONK - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $600 to $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $600
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $500
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah Ac 8c]
SCARFACE_79 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $400
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $400
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $400
*** TURN *** [Ah Ac 8c] [3c]
SCARFACE_79 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $1800
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $1800
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
*** RIVER *** [Ah Ac 8c 3c] [Kd]
POTRIPPER - Bets $2999
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $2999
POTRIPPER - Shows [Ks Qd] (Two Pair, aces and kings)


Stage #896701727 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:24:07.005 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($6890 in chips)
Seat 7 - DZ00NUTS ($5233.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($10483 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($10127.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 2 - JOSIAHW ($4891 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($26332 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($15173 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14815 in chips)
JINXY_MONKEY - Posts small blind $100
DZ00NUTS - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [10d 4h]
Dealt to JOSIAHW [Jc Jd]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [As Ac]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Js 6h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [5h 7h]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [2c Qc]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [Qd 9c]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [6d 3h]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [Jh 3d]
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Raises $600 to $600
POTRIPPER - Calls $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Calls $400
*** FLOP *** [2d 2s 5s]
DZ00NUTS - Checks
JOSIAHW - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $1000
DZ00NUTS - Folds
JOSIAHW - All-In(Raise) $4291 to $4291
POTRIPPER - Calls $3291
*** TURN *** [2d 2s 5s] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [2d 2s 5s Kd] [3s]
POTRIPPER Collects $10482 from main pot

Stage #896700824 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:23:19.005 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14915 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($7090 in chips)
Seat 7 - DZ00NUTS ($5233.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($10483 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($10127.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 2 - JOSIAHW ($4891 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($29332 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($11873 in chips)
POKERME420 - Posts small blind $100
JINXY_MONKEY - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [5c As]
Dealt to JOSIAHW [5s Jh]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [4h 3d]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Ah 10d]
Dealt to POKERME420 [6s 7d]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [Qc Kc]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [3c 6c]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [2c 5d]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [5h 2d]
DZ00NUTS - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $800 to $800
POTR0AST - Raises $3000 to $3000
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
POTRIPPER - Calls $2200
*** FLOP *** [9h Ad 8s]
POTRIPPER - Checks
POTR0AST - Bets $2500
POTRIPPER - Folds
POTR0AST - returned ($2500) : not called

(Fold preflop #5)
Stage #896702898 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:25:10.005 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($10483 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($10127.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($31923 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($15173 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14815 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($6790 in chips)
DZ00NUTS - Posts small blind $100
KOOLKEITH13 - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [3d Qh]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [Ks Jc]
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [4d 7c]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [Kc 10s]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Ac 2h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [Qc 9d]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [As 3h]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [Ah Ad]
SCARFACE_79 - Raises $550 to $550
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
POTR0AST - Folds
POTRIPPER - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Calls $450
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 10c 5d]
DZ00NUTS - Checks
SCARFACE_79 - Bets $700
DZ00NUTS - All-In(Raise) $4083.50 to $4083.50
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $3383.50
*** RIVER *** [Js 10c 5d 8c] [2d]
*** TURN *** [Js 10c 5d] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DZ00NUTS - Shows [Ks Jc] (One pair, jacks)
SCARFACE_79 - Shows [Ah Ad] (One pair, aces)
SCARFACE_79 Collects $9467 from main pot

[greggg230]

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Nope. The last GRAYCAT hand was

14 896764146 2007-09-12 23:20:27 4090 4090 0 TABLE_USER Dealt to GRAYCAT [2h 6s]

The whole file cuts off because of the excel line limit, so it only has from 9 PM (tourney start) until around 11:20 PM. It's too bad because he only has 4K chips and looks like he's about to bust.

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I'm confused: you say that you only have tourney data up to 11:20pm, but in the P5s thread with ALL of the HHs, it shows ALL of Potripper's hhs, right through 1:50am when he won the tourney with that ridic T high call.

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I don't think we have HHs with all of the holecards past around 11:20 PM. The stuff you're seeing is the regular HH that Marco had and it has POTRIPPER b/c they happened to be at the FT together.

This is the last line (#65536) in the Excel file:

9 896763832 2007-09-12 23:20:55 0 0 0 TABLE_INFO Seat 9: TCBLADE Folded on the POCKET CARDS

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Are you sure that that is all of the data that is in the file or just all of the data that shows up in Excel?

Excel can only display 65536 lines of data, but the file might be larger than that..

If you can find a piece of software to convert from XLS to CVS, you can just open up the file in notepad and see everything.

[Gildwulf]

I thought excel 2007 cells are 1,000,000+

[adanthar]

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Stage #896701727 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:24:07.005 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($6890 in chips)
Seat 7 - DZ00NUTS ($5233.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($10483 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($10127.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 2 - JOSIAHW ($4891 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($26332 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($15173 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14815 in chips)
JINXY_MONKEY - Posts small blind $100
DZ00NUTS - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [10d 4h]
Dealt to JOSIAHW [Jc Jd]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [As Ac]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Js 6h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [5h 7h]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [2c Qc]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [Qd 9c]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [6d 3h]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [Jh 3d]
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Raises $600 to $600
POTRIPPER - Calls $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Calls $400
*** FLOP *** [2d 2s 5s]
DZ00NUTS - Checks
JOSIAHW - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $1000
DZ00NUTS - Folds
JOSIAHW - All-In(Raise) $4291 to $4291
POTRIPPER - Calls $3291
*** TURN *** [2d 2s 5s] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [2d 2s 5s Kd] [3s]
POTRIPPER Collects $10482 from main pot

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Remember when I analyzed this hand and said 'slowplays AA when JJ has at most 1 out?' Oops, my bad!

[greggg230]

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I thought excel 2007 cells are 1,000,000+

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That might be true, but is he using Excel 2007?