Am I psychic? (MUBS vs Intuition)

Zeldark · #1 06-29-2007, 07:27 AM

My PAHUD was at the time broken. But something stood out about the hand. I was convinced he had high PP but look at that flop. Is folding anywhere along the way elite or just plain dumb? As always, any other advice is always welcome.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB raises, Hero calls, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP1 folds, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, Button folds.

River: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

b1grich · #2 06-29-2007, 07:41 AM

Standard. Once he 3-bets you on the turn you slow down, as you should. I see nothing wrong with this (except not following your gut)

kerowo · #3 06-29-2007, 07:44 AM

Selective memory. You just don't remember all the times your gut said he had rockets and he turned over 72o. You don't really have a good enough read to dump tp here.

Zeldark · #4 06-29-2007, 08:03 AM

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Standard. Once he 3-bets you on the turn you slow down, as you should. I see nothing wrong with this (except not following your gut)

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If I follow my gut on the turn I save 2BB.
If I follow my gut on the flop after raise I save 2.5BB.
If I follow my gut and am wrong I've thrown away the likely best hand.

And as implied: I vividly remember that I suspected he had overpair when he 3-bet the flop.

Xhad · #5 06-29-2007, 08:06 AM

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If I follow my gut on the flop after raise I save 2.5BB.

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UGH. SOMEONE NEEDS TO STICKY A POT ODDS CHART OR SOMETHING.

BTW, KJ, QJs, overzealous nut flush draws, retardation. There are other hands that do this but you're right to shut down as of the flop 3bet.

Zeldark · #6 06-29-2007, 08:34 AM

So we're pretty much in agreement that the hand was played correctly but the idea of what brought it to the forum is on the insane side? LDO?

Bona · #7 06-29-2007, 08:49 AM

I don't think it is psychic to recognize villain plays JJ+ and only plays a few other hands this way.

I don't think it's MUBS to realize you may lose here more often than you win.

I can't find anyplace in the hand where I would abandon the pot for 1 bet. I think you played it fine.

So you may indeed be psychic, and you may, in fact, suffer from MUBS; but this hand doesn't prove it to me [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

bennyhana · #8 06-29-2007, 09:41 AM

this appears to be very standard.

Riku · #9 06-29-2007, 10:14 AM

NIX · #10 06-29-2007, 10:38 AM

I can't think of any other way to play this.