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Old 11-22-2007, 09:52 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

Hi, would you raise preflop and cbet?
He was 75/0 so far.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) by Hand Converter CG

CO (t1455)
Button (t1640)
SB (t1060)
BB (t1470)
Hero (t1470)
UTG+1 (t1585)
MP1 (t1360)
MP2 (t3460)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t375) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t50</font>, Hero calls t50.

River: (t475) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ??
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

Lvl 3 is where i start playing AQ and i would raise even UTG.
With a K on the flop i definitely cbet.
As played i probably check/fold. I think you've been too passive to try and take it down on the river.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

I would cbet here to avoid giving villain a free shot to pair up. If he calls, I freeze. Donk doesn't necessarily have to hit this flop obv and won't fold any pairs I would think.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

Oops I wanted to cut the hh till the flop.
Can't edit now anymore.
Anyway my concern was his 75 VP%IP.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

now call if he minbets, fold to anything more on the river.

i dont think i cbet here as i expect it to get checked down when i have the best hand with ace high a ton, and he can call with a whole bunch of crap that would freeze us up and shut us down.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:50 PM
loxxii loxxii is offline
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Default Re: $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

This looks great for a cbet to me. Must be another leak of mine.

AMT, what type of flop would you cbet with AQ?
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:55 PM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default Re: $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

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This looks great for a cbet to me. Must be another leak of mine.

AMT, what type of flop would you cbet with AQ?

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i am pretty sure the reason we dont cbet this is because villian is uber loose passive, as stated in OP, not because of the board. Board is fine for cbets in general.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

Why is a guy who plays 75/0 bad? He is bad because he is playing weak hands that he has to fold on the flop if he misses, because he doesn't have initiative or showdown value. By not C-betting you are essentially playing the same fit or fold game he is. So in short you have to bet even though you have no earthly idea what he has.

I disagree with Danny a bit on this type of player. Tons of these players are making the calls to flop top pair or some viable draw. They don't tend to float per se, so if they miss the flop they will get out of the way.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

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Why is a guy who plays 75/0 bad? He is bad because he is playing weak hands that he has to fold on the flop if he misses, because he doesn't have initiative or showdown value. By not C-betting you are essentially playing the same fit or fold game he is. So in short you have to bet even though you have no earthly idea what he has.

I disagree with Danny a bit on this type of player. Tons of these players are making the calls to flop top pair or some viable draw. They don't tend to float per se, so if they miss the flop they will get out of the way.

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QFT. Fish won't call with nada.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:56 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $16 - AQ raise + cbet?

Note to the last posters : if he missed the flop, we're ahead.

If you think he calls when we're beat and folds when we beat him, then obviously checking &gt; betting.

DUCY ?

cliff note : I would not c-bet vs a 75%VPIP.
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