2 tbles left 88 facing repop

[hamnegger]

look at chip stacks and tell me you shoving or folding with a player in between and a lot of $$$$$ in the pot?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t21650)
SB (t28034)
BB (t41710)
UTG (t53450)
Hero (t70304)
MP2 (t112721)
CO (t30690)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t6000</font>, MP2 calls t6000, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t30490</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?

[markbris]

Yea i like the shove to isolate, you have plenty to move the caller out of the pot.

[TroutMaskReplica]

reads on cutoff? and aren't there antes? buyin?

assuming ante of 200 (regular stars ante for that level in a 1500) I think it's good but close depending on how tight CO is. Granted, it's an obvious enough squeeze move for him, but if he's only doing it with 99+, AQ+ then it's very close even with antes (you need 1.77-1 and, assuming antes you're getting 1.8-1)

so if you think he might do it with lower pairs, some other stuff like KJs+ and occasionally with air (because that wouldn't be such a bad move depending how he reads you), then it becomes a call

i can't say i would always call here. 4/180 yes.

so hamnegger - what's your range for CO based on reads etc
everyone else - what do you typically push with here if you're CO?

[hamnegger]

i think its never a lower pair or air. its about 60% overs 40% bigger pair

[Dunkman]

If I think he might possibly have even ever heard the word squeeze before I'd shove to isolate.

[BarryLyndon]

Given this pot, I think you need to iso shove UNLESS the RR has been playing really tight. Then, considering the caller in between and the small chance he might have a monster, you may find a fold. But, I think you have to push this.

Barry

[TroutMaskReplica]

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i think its never a lower pair or air. its about 60% overs 40% bigger pair

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for better or worse it's air some % of the time if it's me in CO.

what do you shove from CO here?

[TroutMaskReplica]

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i think its never a lower pair or air. its about 60% overs 40% bigger pair

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if that's your range (translates to something like 99+, AJs+, KQs+) then you need 1.7-1 and you're getting 1.8-1 assuming antes

[Sherman]

Come on fellas. Someone stop multi-tabling for a minute and do the math. Run some ranges. I know someone can do it.

Sherman

[TroutMaskReplica]

to answer my own question, my range if I'm CO is probably 88+, AQ+: definitely push. KQs, some suited connectors: sometimes push. with reads definitely air occasionally. and I would be quite averse to shove AT/AJ, maybe not correctly?