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Old 08-12-2007, 11:12 PM
Rakshasa Rakshasa is offline
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Default 200NL KK vs loose/passive Button fish

Notice stacks are ~160bb eff. No real history or reads on villain, he's about 52/4/1 over 100 hands

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $188.00
Hero (BB): $326.00
UTG: $218.95
CO: $295.00
BTN: $352.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, BTN calls $2.00, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, BTN calls $8.00

Flop: ($21) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $38.00</font>
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:42 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: 200NL KK vs loose/passive Button fish

would generally reraise here, and fold to a 4-bet. if he calls and turn is clean (non A, 3, 4, 5, 6), bet again for value, and again consider folding to a shove.

calling and leading most turns isnt bad either
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK vs loose/passive Button fish

3bt to anything, call a shove.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK vs loose/passive Button fish

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3bt to anything, call a shove.

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160 BBs deep against a guy who could easily have 53s, 52s, or 32s in his range, i gotta think getting all in here isn't really optimal for us
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK vs loose/passive Button fish

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3bt to anything, call a shove.

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160 BBs deep against a guy who could easily have 53s, 52s, or 32s in his range, i gotta think getting all in here isn't really optimal for us

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my bad,

didn't see it was 160xbb.
thought it was $160 effective stacks.

In which case,
I'm not sure I like 3betting here,
and prefer calling.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK vs loose/passive Button fish

I would likely call and lead most turns. If he raises you again, you're just about always dead. If he calls, you're almost always going to be ahead and extracting alot of value.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK vs loose/passive Button fish

So, I called and the turn is 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($97)

278 behind
B/F 80?

Say we bet $80 and villain calls and the river is something blank like T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Pot is gonna be $257 with $198 behind, what it do?
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: 200NL KK vs loose/passive Button fish

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So, I called and the turn is 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($97)

278 behind
B/F 80?

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Wow this hand is getting dirty! I would have to check here, if you have the loose passive player beat he will always check and I think most of the time he is going to bet if he has you.
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