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#11
11-16-2007, 01:45 AM
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Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
octave,
he's calling down with basically any 8, and prob something like 77. getting c/r on the river is such an easy fold simply because people just don't c/r the river after c/c twice with a worse hand at these stakes. 
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#12
11-16-2007, 01:46 AM
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Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
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very well played. [/ QUOTE ] Curious what hands you can put villain on (given the way that hand played) that will call in this spot? I just don't see him calling with much. A weak flush maybe?
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#13
11-16-2007, 01:51 AM
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Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
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octave, he's calling down with basically any 8, and prob something like 77. getting c/r on the river is such an easy fold simply because people just don't c/r the river after c/c twice with a worse hand at these stakes. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, i drop 99 with the swiftness if I get popped here. I considered 8x, but I would have expected him to donk the flop with the 8x hands he'd call with pre, no?
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#14
11-16-2007, 01:52 AM
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Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
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[ QUOTE ] octave, he's calling down with basically any 8, and prob something like 77. getting c/r on the river is such an easy fold simply because people just don't c/r the river after c/c twice with a worse hand at these stakes. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, i drop 99 with the swiftness if I get popped here. I considered 8x, but I would have expected him to donk the flop with the 8x hands he'd call with pre, no? [/ QUOTE ] meh that's a pretty big assumption.
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#15
11-16-2007, 01:55 AM
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Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
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meh that's a pretty big assumption. [/ QUOTE ] On a side, would you expect a 29/12 player to re-pop 77 out of the BB when 5 handed? (I don't use a HUD, just trying to get my head around ranges/proclivities.)
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#16
11-16-2007, 01:58 AM
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Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
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[ QUOTE ] meh that's a pretty big assumption. [/ QUOTE ] On a side, would you expect a 29/12 player to re-pop 77 out of the BB when 5 handed? (I don't use a HUD, just trying to get my head around ranges/proclivities.) [/ QUOTE ] no, not really. it's tough to say without more reads... I know some 16/12 players that 3 bet a ton and some 40/20 maniacs that 3 bet very rarely.
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#17
11-16-2007, 02:01 AM
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Re: 50NL: Value Betting 99
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no, not really. it's tough to say without more reads... I know some 16/12 players that 3 bet a ton and some 40/20 maniacs that 3 bet very rarely. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks- I know a lot of people are comfortable saying "24/18/2" or whatever, and basing everything off of the numbers, but I tend to feel that while it's directionally accurate, it's still a bit of a vacuum
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