Full Tilt: 10/20 SH - Turn Decision 3 way -- caught in the middle

[magicmcq]

Full Tilt 10/20 -- 4 handed

I have been sitting for one orbit, in which time I have seen Villain 1 overplay TPGK on more than one occasion. He is borderline maniacal, weak leading and raising often.

I have no real info on Villain 2.

I pick up the black QQ in the BB

CO folds, Villain 2 (button) raises, Villain 1 (SB) cold calls 2, I 3-bet, both call.

Three to the flop for $72:

Flop: Jh Th 2x

Villain 1 checks, I bet, Villain 2 raises, Villain 1 check-3bets, Hero caps????? Both call.

3 ot the turn for $168

Turn 6x (not a heart)

Villain 1 bets, Hero?????



Comments on both flop and turn are appreciated.


magic

[RobA]

Tough Spot.

The flop seems like a clear bet/cap like you did. I think you usually should cap in spots like that on the flop to "make the rest of the hand easier to play". But in this case you did it, and now it doesn't seem very easy to play.

Your looking at 10.5-1 on the turn. Either Villain 1 or Villain 2 could have any of JT, or KJ, AJ, or maybe 22, or a straight or flush draw. I don't think TT or JJ is too likely because you closed the pre-flop action.

Your outs may, or may not, be tainted. You could have 8 outs vs. 2pair and a Q9 straight draw. You could be winning. You could be drawing dead vs. 98 and a set of TT or JJ. You could have 5 outs vs. a flush draw and 2 pair. I think all of this together equals call the turn because you need about 4 outs to justify a call in that size of a pot, and considering all the relative likelihood of the above combos you seem to have around that.

So call the turn. If there is a raise and re-raise behind youthen easy fold. If there is a raise by villan 2, and a call by villain 1 then I dunno, now your getting 14.5-1 to close the action, but I think your hand is now worth closer to 2-3 outs, so maybe fold this one too.

[Crusher19]

i usually raise in this spot and try to shut out the 3rd player and then reevaluate on the river

[drbk2]

Raise the turn. Fold if it is capped back to you. Call down a 3 bet.

[sonartec]

Man can you please use a hand converter? makes it so much easier

I agree with drbk2, seems like a raise call down.