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#51
11-15-2007, 04:59 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
Hellmuth wins again. He just does this to get publicity, probably doesnt mean half the crap he says. Well I hope he doesnt. Anyways, the poker brat image has become very marketable so he keeps doing this [censored]. My mother and 12 year old sister know who Hellmuth is and they dont even know how to play poker. No wonder he so rich.
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#52
11-15-2007, 05:01 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hellmuth has 6 BBs Hellmuth raises to 2.5x with K6o Hellmuth folds to shove, leaving himself 3.5x BBs. Hellmuth picks up AA the next hand , and claims " that's why you fold the K6, no internet player can make that fold", to justify why you should raise fold with a 6BB stack. Hellmuth is world class. [/ QUOTE ] ZOMG HE HAS 11 BRACELETS YOUD IDIOT! YOU DONT KNOW POKER AT ALL! [/ QUOTE ] qft imo [/ QUOTE ]
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#53
11-15-2007, 05:06 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
I'll assume that most of the responses here are levels.
In the last four years, Hellmuth has won one heads up invitational and a couple of low buy in super donkaments at the WSOP (nearly every pro that's asked says the structure of these massive 1500/2500 WSOPs is terrible). His record in WPT events (i.e. the deepstack live events) is mediocre (that's being charitable) for the self-proclaimed best holdem player in the world. The guy rarely plays cash games these days. The best NLHE cash game players would eat him alive (I'm talking live players here). On TV, the guy talks non-stop about what his thinking is about every hand (and he's not trying to be deceptive). This is monumentally stupid when playing against decent opposition. In limit cash games, Hellmuth is not even close to an elite player. With so much technical knowledge about poker available, it is evident that Hellmuth is one of those old-school pros that the game has passed by. He can't, however, admit this, and therefore refuses to adjust.
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#54
11-15-2007, 05:09 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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[ QUOTE ] When are we going to get Helmuth's FTP screen name already? [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] OMGurSBluigiiii [/ QUOTE ] EDIT: halfpoint what happened to your photobucket [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I didnt get to save the microphone guy [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] enjoy 
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#55
11-15-2007, 06:33 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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[ QUOTE ] someone post a youtube link pls [/ QUOTE ] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enRsFz3LlOw [/ QUOTE ] lol I was expecting some stupid video.... but that was SICK that dude got rocked hard...
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#56
11-15-2007, 09:33 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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I'll assume that most of the responses here are levels. In the last four years, Hellmuth has won one heads up invitational and a couple of low buy in super donkaments at the WSOP (nearly every pro that's asked says the structure of these massive 1500/2500 WSOPs is terrible). His record in WPT events (i.e. the deepstack live events) is mediocre (that's being charitable) for the self-proclaimed best holdem player in the world. The guy rarely plays cash games these days. The best NLHE cash game players would eat him alive (I'm talking live players here). On TV, the guy talks non-stop about what his thinking is about every hand (and he's not trying to be deceptive). This is monumentally stupid when playing against decent opposition. In limit cash games, Hellmuth is not even close to an elite player. With so much technical knowledge about poker available, it is evident that Hellmuth is one of those old-school pros that the game has passed by. He can't, however, admit this, and therefore refuses to adjust. [/ QUOTE ] you're just too dumb to understand phil hellmuth's nuance and high level thinking when it comes to all forms of poker. stop berating the world's most famous and best hold'em player that is also profficient at other forms of the game, and nascar.
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#57
11-15-2007, 10:31 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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Hellmuth has 6 BBs Hellmuth raises to 2.5x with K6o Hellmuth folds to shove, leaving himself 3.5x BBs. Hellmuth picks up AA the next hand , and claims " that's why you fold the K6, no internet player can make that fold", to justify why you should raise fold with a 6BB stack. Hellmuth is annoying [/ QUOTE ] FYP
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#58
11-15-2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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[ QUOTE ] Can't he just shut up and play the highest games on full tilt? [/ QUOTE ] he already does, and he crushes them. He just cant publicly talk about it because he is sponsored by UB and isnt supposed to be playing anywhere else. I thought this was pretty common knowledge? [/ QUOTE ] he plays 300/600 on FTP?? ahahah leveled?
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#59
11-15-2007, 12:51 PM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
11 wsop bracelets, and then someone is worrying about whether
he plays a 100k match heads-up? or if Phil Ivey respects his cash game skills? what does it take to impress people around here anyways? you might as well say Phil is terrible at roshambo therefore... i think the pros are loathe to compliment Phil H. too much for the obvious reason that Phil's personality makes such compliments superfluous.
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#60
11-15-2007, 01:01 PM
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Re: Phil Hellmuth best holdem player by far
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I love how he says stuff like "I used to crush all the cash games 10 years ago." I wonder if he has any idea how incredibly soft those games must've been back then compared to today's games. I mean, live poker NOW is soft, can you imagine pre-poker boom cash games? mmmmmm [/ QUOTE ] as someone who has been playing for a decade (pro for 7 years), i can tell you that is NOT true. yes, the great players are better now, but the bad players are much worse these days and there are more of them.
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