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Old 11-20-2007, 10:36 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I butcher QQ on pretty much every street

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Because tables break up regularly, so I'm often sitting down with new, unknown players.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:29 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I butcher QQ on pretty much every street

Guess I'll go ahead and put the flop up.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $11.30
BB: $9.50
UTG: $35.15
CO: $13.05
Hero (BTN): $50.25

Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">Hero calls $1.75</font>

<font color="blue">I decided just to call and take a flop in position rather than 4 bet.</font>

Flop: ($8.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $8.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>

<font color="blue">Not the greatest flop, but no A or K. Part of me wants to shove. The weak tight part of me wants to just call and see what he does on the turn. Guess which part wins? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]</font>
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: I butcher QQ on pretty much every street

If you intend to call, I hope you're then calling the turn shove as well, but since he doesn't even have a PSR behind, I'd just shove. I think that both lines are ok.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: I butcher QQ on pretty much every street

Im calling this and folding the turn. A limp raises is soooo heavily weighted towards AA/KK that if he fires two barrels I am happily mucking.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: I butcher QQ on pretty much every street

Your goal should be to try and get an idea on his limp reraise range whilst also getting value -problemis the lack of information we have vs an unknown and 1 street to decide!

I think call preflop is prob best at getting value vs JJ and AK and any other crap he may be doing this with + we have position in a semi-3bet pot.

Make a decision on the flop if you're gonna felt or not and go with it - if you think this isn't just AA/KK say could be jj and AK/AQ then I would either shove drawy flop or call and get AI turn but cuz of stack sizes 22 behind just shove flop.

The limp reraise and pot flop is strong but also villan may be wanting you to fold by acting so strongly so I would shove flop. If you think he'll only do this then you can fold flop but call flop and fold turn is bad given stack sizes -unless you want to induce another bluff but too many scare cards rly.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:22 AM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I butcher QQ on pretty much every street

I cant edit my post, I never checked out the stacks, assumed it was 100 bb. I am getting it in on the flop, I just dont give short stacks nearly as much credit.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:20 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I butcher QQ on pretty much every street

The Turn...

Flop: ($8.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $8.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero calls $8.75</font>

<font color="blue">Looks like I should have just shoved. I played it weak tight and just called. I was planning on folding to a turn bet.</font>


Turn: ($26.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $6.50</font>,<font color="red"> Hero ?</font>

<font color="blue">That's a pretty terrible card. I was planning on folding to any bet, but then he bets so small. To me it looks like he's trying to setup a shove on the river. Can I really fold getting like 5-1 here?</font>
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