50/100 deep vs peachy, thin value?

[Stinger88]

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1714757

I discuss hands with him on AIM often and we both have a good idea what each other is capable of. I think pf and flop are standard this deep, as is the turn bet. I'd normally bet the turn with draws and sometimes weak made hands too because I think the ace is usually a bad card for his range. On the river I put him most likely on KK-TT, with a chance of an ace or 9 also. What does everyone think?

[Ship Ship McGipp]

yea, i like it. kinda think you have to.

[Ansky]

id say its anywhere from mediocre to fantastic, really hard to comment w/o bein in your shoes. As a default tho its good.

[myke11]

wouldnt he play AK the same way?

[Allinlife]

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wouldnt he play AK the same way?

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well I don't know what level these guys play at but typically that's a good bluff card for Villain so he should balance it by betting most of the time he hits the ace.

I think it's close- he definitely sounds like a player that could mix in a few slowplays, but he should realize that the river isn't a great bluffing spot for you because all the draws missed/ you probably dont bet a 9x on the turn. so I think he can narrow your range down to Ax float that hit or fullhouse and fold the worse hands often enough/ and balance that with occasional slow plays.

I agree at first glance it feels like we have to, and we are probably ahead vast majority of the time but I don't see him calling us often enough with a worse hand to negate the times he slowplays big hands.

p.s)happy birthday Ansky! i really think people should be temp-banned from 2p2 on their birthdays so they get encouraged to take a break from this place once a year [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[Apathy]

my only issue is that most of your hands that lose to KK-10,10 either raise the flop or check behind turn. You are over repping this a lot which may seriously detract from the value you are getting from this shove.

[irockhoess]

Hm. His hand seems soooo much like AX of clubs to the point that i can hardly create a range cause thats making so much noise. If he calls you and wins, i think that is his hand. I def think he can be checking like 10s thru kings here as betting doesnt yield much value for those hands on the turn nor river. I think i like this if not only cause the board is so draw heavy and they all missed that he might look you up if this is one of the first times uve tried the line on him.

[kafkaFan1]

this seems really like too fancy play syndrome tome. too likely he has you beat and too likly he doesn't pay you off if he has a worst hand

[Omniheart]

cant he have AQ AJ AT fairly often and is calling?

[king_of_drafts]

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my only issue is that most of your hands that lose to KK-10,10 either raise the flop or check behind turn

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I think this is less true when they are deep