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Old 11-22-2007, 07:25 PM
yegon yegon is offline
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Default NL50 - TP + FD - call turn AI?

this is really weirdly played by villain, I thought this is very close between folding and calling. What do you think?

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $49.75
Hero (BTN): $78.30
SB: $74.85
BB: $49.50
UTG: $152.12
MP: $54.98

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.50</font>, BB calls $7.50

Turn: ($25.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $37 and is All-In</font>, Hero ???
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - TP + FD - call turn AI?

Yes call. I don't see why he wouldn't 3bet the flop if he is doing this with a monster hand. Also you're never drawing dead
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:47 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - TP + FD - call turn AI?

Even with 15 outs you need 2 to 1 to call here. You are getting just under 1.7 to 1....and I think you only have 12 outs a decent amount of the time and occasionally only flushes are good. I don't think your TPNK is good very often.


I think this is not too difficult a fold.
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:01 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - TP + FD - call turn AI?

Im folding here. You are clearly drawing and you dont have outs to do it with one card to come. I would be pretty pissed about folding because of all the outs but this is one you have to make imo.
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - TP + FD - call turn AI?

This blows, but it's a clear fold. Although you can't be certain if villain has a real monster or just some random decent hand, it's not really relevant to as you're still playing catch up without odds to call.
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - TP + FD - call turn AI?

The other problem is you dont even know which outs are clean. You could so easily be drawing to 9 outs here. Why cant this be 67 that doesnt want you to draw out and/or thinking this is the best way to get value? If its a set you have 12 outs, again no odds. Only way you have 15 outs is if he has a stronger ten and just overplayed the hell out of it.
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:18 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - TP + FD - call turn AI?

I thought a set is most likely with an overpair being a possibility. But yeah I folded, just wondered if it was not a mistake.
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