New to 2+2

SomthingOrOther · #1 04-21-2007, 06:07 PM

hello everyone,

I'm gona keep my fist post short and sweet but I'd really appreciate any help I can get.

First is: Whats an average winrate for small stakes online holdem? What should your graph look like?

(yes i have PT and PAHUD)

Second: Im showing a loss with KQs and KQo I've tryed analyzing as best I can and I just cant see what I'm doing wrong.

Normally I'll raise if im first in or I have good position. Somtimes I'll limp if theres 4+ people in the pot behind me. I dont really get sticky to the hand im looking for top pair or a fl or straight draw. Any sugestion on low limit play of this hand? I seem to be having similar trouble with A10s and A10o.

fretelöo · #2 04-21-2007, 06:10 PM

Hi,

your questions are too general to answer. Your graph should go up. If it does that, it's a good graph. Otherwise it's a mean, ugly and bad graph. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Post a few hands about KQ.

Zeldark · #3 04-21-2007, 06:13 PM

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First is: Whats an average winrate for small stakes online holdem?

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My PT tells me that the average of all the players I've seen is about -1.84 BB/100

SomthingOrOther · #4 04-21-2007, 06:18 PM

heres the graph im pretty new still under %K hands.

ill look for KQ hands.

ty

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (14.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, Button folds, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 caps, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (14.60 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (17.60 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, BB raises, MP2 calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 22.60 BB

ill get 1 or 2 more

SomthingOrOther · #5 04-21-2007, 06:20 PM

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 raises, CO folds, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (12 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13 BB

SomthingOrOther · #6 04-21-2007, 06:21 PM

Also this hand killed me not KQ but any suggestions?

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, MP1 3-bets, 1 fold, MP3 (poster) calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 caps, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 raises, MP3 calls, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, MP3 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (28 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 3-bets, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls $0.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: 34.50 BB

Ampelmann · #7 04-23-2007, 03:41 AM

Don't post several hands per thread (you might occationally post several hands per post if they're related). Don't post hands into a thread that's about something else.

Hand 1: Fold pf. I might fold the flop when it gets capped.

Hand 2: Don't 3-bet the flop, don't bet the turn (what are you trying to accomplish with a turn bet or a flop 3-bet?).

Hand 3: Fold preflop, c/r river.

fretelöo · #8 04-21-2007, 06:23 PM

STOP: Read the faq!

SomthingOrOther · #9 04-21-2007, 06:26 PM

I know the FAQ but honestly i dont remember much info about these hands, i just want anyone to point out mistakes if they see them...

sorry...

fretelöo · #10 04-21-2007, 06:36 PM

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I know the FAQ but honestly i dont remember much info about these hands, i just want anyone to point out mistakes if they see them...

sorry...

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obv you missed some crucial parts:

"Before posting, you are strongly encouraged to fully explore the search function. If you have a general question, it likely has been asked and answered already. The majority of posts in this forum are hand posts, where the poster had questions about their play in a specific hand.

By lurking for a bit, you'll quickly observe the common structure of a hand post. A quick summary is to:

* be readable: Make use of a hand converter (external link, be sure to choose 2+2 output format) when possible. If you're having trouble getting a converter to work, that is not an excuse to post a raw hand history. Instead, type out something by hand that resembles a converted hand, even if you don't get all the colors and such the same. Always preview your posts to make sure they look as they should before hitting the final "post" button. It is also recommended that you post only 1 hand per topic.

* provide context: Recreate the hand by providing all relevant information (reads, pot size, action, your thoughts, etc) you had at the time. Often this means you should stop the action at your decision point. Since you did not know what would happen after your decision, neither should anyone else.

* be unbiased: If you ask "When should I have folded this hand?", you'll probably get biased responses since you have revealed that you probably lost the hand. The results generally do not matter and should not be provided in the first post. If you played the hand correctly, the results will eventually take care of themselves. Provide the results when the hand's discussion has reached its conclusion to provide closure for those who helped you out."