Horrible Time Pot Rule at Commerce

[Seb86]

this whole way of raking the first pot of a dealer shift is stupid anyway, why dont they just take regular time charge with each player paying his due?

I cant see any benefit from this way of collecting rake and I am not sure if there is any.

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this whole way of raking the first pot of a dealer shift is stupid anyway, why dont they just take regular time charge with each player paying his due?

I cant see any benefit from this way of collecting rake and I am not sure if there is any.

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dealer doesn't have to make change and you get to play a few more hands. it also has minor effects on style of play.

[Seb86]

It adds variance for nothing and seriously the change will take 30 seconds MAX.

I only played once with that structure (only like 2 hours so my sample is extremly small and it could be a coicidence I agree) but it seemed to slow the action on the first few hands as people would be (rightfully) less willing to get involved in a pot.

The only pot I saw being chop chop in that 2 hours session was the first one of a dealer shift, again nano sample, just an overall impression.

[andyfox]

I think that's the theory behind it, that it's quicker in that the dealer doesn't have to go around the entire table making change. But in practice it doesn't save time. Many of the dealers are not sure if the pot is big enough to have been a collection pot and they are unsure about how many people were actually dealt in or who declared themselves out of collection. So if two people were walking, and one person declared himself out of collection, the winner of the collection pot, has to pay for six players, which requires making change, and then the dealer has to take collection from the three non-participating players, so she has to make change for them too. In practice it probably is slower than individual collection taking.

[andyfox]

The pot is not raked on the dealer's first pot of the shift. It's done on the half hour which does not correspond to the pushes.

I'm in favor of doing away with collection pots as well. If it's a time collection game, I would have a player get a button when he first locks up the seat. He has to pay 1/2 the collection if the light is on or goes on while he has the seat locked up (or if he's already in the game) and with his half collection he gives up the button. Every player then pays when the light goes on and gets no hands unless he pays right then. Easy, no arguments; your first collection is 1/2, therafter everybody pays full amount at the same time, no exceptions.