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Old 07-13-2007, 04:19 AM
Poker monkey Poker monkey is offline
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Default Should fold earlier?

I have TPTK + gutshot on flop. Pick up flush draw on turn. Is calling flop / turn and folding river OK? Other ideas? I always seem to put people on missed club draws with lines like this.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $31.20
CO: $24
Button: $34.55
SB: $48.40
Hero: $54.45

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $3</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $9</font>, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($27, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $13.5</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $13.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $27
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Old 07-13-2007, 04:35 AM
Burdzthewurd Burdzthewurd is offline
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Default Re: Should fold earlier?

I just fold flop here, not even a K or J is a good card for you with possible wrap draws SB could be betting here or CO can have behind you, so you only have three clean gutshot outs here.
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Old 07-13-2007, 09:45 AM
jbird jbird is offline
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Default Re: Should fold earlier?

Read on villain and table? How does villain see you?

Since ppl have a tendency to put PFRers on AAxx, and A flops, and he pots into you like there's no care in the world, he looks pretty f'ing strong to me, like he actually has AAxx.

But give a bit more info in your posts -- you have 200+bb's, how did you get them? How often are you raising? Is villain loose / tight, good / retarded?
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Should fold earlier?

You have 3 outs to the nuts on the flop, easy fold.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:17 PM
TrainHardDieHard TrainHardDieHard is offline
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Default Re: Should fold earlier?

Turn call is terrible too. You need 3.88 : 1 to call on the turn and you're getting 2:1. Even if you hit, it's not the nuts and theres no guarantee he will call your bet, so implied odds are significantly reduced. Fold this flop. It looks like he has a set IMO.
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:38 PM
Hopscotch Hopscotch is offline
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Default Re: Should fold earlier?

flop fold is probably optimal As played its a clear fold on the turn.
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