Fred Thompson for Poker?

[Cactus Jack]

Nicely done, No Party.

Amazing/scary how 200+ years later, they are still right. Those were some very smart cats.

[oldbookguy]

In-case anyone missed it, Thompson is in.

He announced yesterday that he will have the 'formal' announcement on September 6.

OK, so, do we let him know, again, our feelings or wait till Sept. 07?

This will shake the GOP up some though (perhaps moving some wannabes out) and who will win is anyones guess.

obg

[Legislurker]

I doubt anyone leaves for a few reasons.

1. They are all(except McCain) making money. They can DONATE
money from this campaign to friend's cmapaign when positioning for leadership in the House or Senate.

2. Huckabee and Brownback are in it to spite Romney. One may drop, but not both. They want the ChristaNazi vote, and can swing 20% if the other leaves. 20% on Feb 5th could get the nomination. Sad.

3. Vanity. All of them covet and enjoy the attention. They like being feted, wined, dined, and private jetted. Talked to like they should be the leader of the free world.

4. Anything can happen before Feb 5th. Most are in denial about being able to win. Except Hunter and Tancredo. Both are in it for exposure and warchests for powerbrokering.

I doubt more than 2 of the top 10 drop out before Feb 5.

[tangled]

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Ron Paul talks about an unregulated Internet

While Fred Thompson is talking about The federal government regulating the internet. Ron Paul is discussing keeping it unregulated.

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Ron Paul won't be President, and it would be bad if he was.
If he triggers a massive global recession poker won't be much of a living. The man simply will not come sane and stop labelling every Federal and International body evil.
He talks a big game about freedom, but is queitly letting homophobe and xenophobes in important grassroots positions in his campaign. I think we want to be seen as sane, normal, everday moderate Americans. Ron Paul's campaign is bringing in the usual baggage that has kept Libertarians from ever gaining national traction, and its a shame. I don't think poker players should be lumped in that crowd.

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The importance of Paul's candidancy is not in the possibilty of winning - as you point out, he is not going to win - but in the possibilty that he might do better than expected. If he captures a fair amount of votes, then someone that can win will likely want to pander to his constituency once he has dropped from the race. This pandering could happen during the nomination process or during the general election campaign.

There is potential value in that for us.

[frommagio]

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I doubt anyone leaves for a few reasons.

1. They are all(except McCain) making money. They can DONATE
money from this campaign to friend's cmapaign when positioning for leadership in the House or Senate.

2. Huckabee and Brownback are in it to spite Romney. One may drop, but not both. They want the ChristaNazi vote, and can swing 20% if the other leaves. 20% on Feb 5th could get the nomination. Sad.

3. Vanity. All of them covet and enjoy the attention. They like being feted, wined, dined, and private jetted. Talked to like they should be the leader of the free world.

4. Anything can happen before Feb 5th. Most are in denial about being able to win. Except Hunter and Tancredo. Both are in it for exposure and warchests for powerbrokering.

I doubt more than 2 of the top 10 drop out before Feb 5.

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When you use the terms "Nazi" or "fascist" to label any person that you disagree with, then what terms do you reserve for the actual Nazis and fascists?

You continue to embarrass yourself.

[Legislurker]

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I doubt anyone leaves for a few reasons.

1. They are all(except McCain) making money. They can DONATE
money from this campaign to friend's cmapaign when positioning for leadership in the House or Senate.

2. Huckabee and Brownback are in it to spite Romney. One may drop, but not both. They want the ChristaNazi vote, and can swing 20% if the other leaves. 20% on Feb 5th could get the nomination. Sad.

3. Vanity. All of them covet and enjoy the attention. They like being feted, wined, dined, and private jetted. Talked to like they should be the leader of the free world.

4. Anything can happen before Feb 5th. Most are in denial about being able to win. Except Hunter and Tancredo. Both are in it for exposure and warchests for powerbrokering.

I doubt more than 2 of the top 10 drop out before Feb 5.

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When you use the terms "Nazi" or "fascist" to label any person that you disagree with, then what terms do you reserve for the actual Nazis and fascists?

You continue to embarrass yourself.

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Do you have anything better to do? Or do you just stay in on Friday, pop a Cialis, and play forum police?

[TheRedRocket]

do you think it helps the cause to equate people who want to ban internet gambling with an army who wanted to exterminate an entire ethnic group? You are being ridiculous and offensive. Please don't become a spokesman for poker.

[Emperor]

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I doubt anyone leaves for a few reasons.

1. They are all(except McCain) making money. They can DONATE
money from this campaign to friend's cmapaign when positioning for leadership in the House or Senate.

2. Huckabee and Brownback are in it to spite Romney. One may drop, but not both. They want the ChristaNazi vote, and can swing 20% if the other leaves. 20% on Feb 5th could get the nomination. Sad.

3. Vanity. All of them covet and enjoy the attention. They like being feted, wined, dined, and private jetted. Talked to like they should be the leader of the free world.

4. Anything can happen before Feb 5th. Most are in denial about being able to win. Except Hunter and Tancredo. Both are in it for exposure and warchests for powerbrokering.

I doubt more than 2 of the top 10 drop out before Feb 5.

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When you use the terms "Nazi" or "fascist" to label any person that you disagree with, then what terms do you reserve for the actual Nazis and fascists?

You continue to embarrass yourself.

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frommagio, these are the same people who think the religious zealot Al Gore of the church of global warming should be running, ignore their hypocrisy lest you be trapped in a whirlpool of socialistic driven conspiracy.

[XChamp]

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When you use the terms "Nazi" or "fascist" to label any person that you disagree with, then what terms do you reserve for the actual Nazis and fascists?

You continue to embarrass yourself.

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Do you have anything better to do? Or do you just stay in on Friday, pop a Cialis, and play forum police?

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Frommagio has a point.

[TheEngineer]

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When you use the terms "Nazi" or "fascist" to label any person that you disagree with, then what terms do you reserve for the actual Nazis and fascists?

You continue to embarrass yourself.

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Frommagio: Use of "Nazi" and "fascist" to describe those who would try to force their views on others is ultrastandard in the English language. For example, the "soup Nazi" on Seinfeld (the use of "Nazi" apparently didn't offend Jerry Seinfeld) wasn't trying to kill millions. And, when Rush Limbaugh (before being forced to completely sell out to the Republican Party in exchange for his continued livelihood following his OxyContin bust) referred to very militant feminists as "feminazis", he wasn't suggesting that they were somehow on par with Hitler (though some misunderstood and thought he was comparing abortion and genocide...some anti-abortionists have made this connection, so this was not entirely without merit). Rather, he was suggesting that they wanted to force their views on everyone.

From Wikipedia's "Nazi" article:

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The multiple atrocities and racist ideology that the Nazis followed have made them notorious in popular discourse as well as history. The term "Nazi" has become a genericised term of abuse. So have other Third Reich terms like "Führer" (often spelled "fuhrer" or less often, but more correctly, "fuehrer" in English-speaking countries), "Fascist", "Gestapo" (short for Geheime Staatspolizei, or Secret State Police in English) or "Hitler". The terms are used to describe any people or behaviours that are viewed as thuggish, overly authoritarian, or extremist.

The terms are also used to describe anyone or anything seen as strict or doctrinaire. Phrases like "grammar nazi", "Feminazi", "Open Source Nazi", and "parking [enforcement] Nazis", are examples of those in use in the U.S. These uses are offensive to some, as the controversy in the popular press over the Seinfeld "Soup Nazi" episode indicates, but still the terms are used so frequently as to inspire "Godwin's Law ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law )".

More innocent terms, like "fashion police", also bear some resemblance to Nazi terminology (Gestapo, Secret State Police) as well as references to Police states in general.

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Legislurker: I understand (though I'd not personally use it myself) your use of the term "ChristaNazi" when referring to a VERY small subset of Christian fundamentalists who would like America to become a religous country, complete with scarlet letters, stocks, and public whippings for moral indiscretions. However, I think using the term to describe all fundamentalists is too broad, and it risks offending and alienating the many good and decent Christian posters who are here fighting with us. I know you don't wish to offend your friends here, nor do I, so perhaps we could all be more careful with our word choices. Surely "nanny-stater", "fascist nanny-stater", etc. would convey the same thoughts without offending Christians who don't believe poker should be banned. After all, we're only complaining about people who DO want poker banned, right?

Everyone: Let's all chill out and focus on the nanny-state poker banners. We put them on the ropes in the election of '06, and we'll deliver the knockout punch in '08. Cool? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]