A Surprise at the Venetian ! - Page 2

SumZero · #11 07-16-2007, 02:54 AM

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I don’t see how a deep stacked low buyin tournament makes sense from anyone’s perspective. The rake per table hour has to be crazy low on a $300 tournament that lasts two days. And from a player perspective there’s no way to have a high hourly earn rate with such a small prize pool for the hours played. Am I missing something here?

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They are fun. From the player point of view the deep stack definitely helps increase the skill edge. The smallest tourneys were, essentially, $289.50 + 40.50. The middle ones were $482.50 + 57.2. The big ones were $965 + 95. And that overstates the amounts of rake slightly as 10-15% of the +X there was going into the prize pool for overall DSE champion.

SenatorKevin · #12 07-16-2007, 03:03 AM

I'm curious to see how regular the 5-10 games at the V are now that the series and tournies have wrapped up. I played at the Wynn since I could get a seat quicker in the 5-10 game but I generally prefer the V's room. I miss the days when they comped at 4.50 an HOUR for playing 2-5. *tear*

SenatorKevin · #13 07-16-2007, 03:09 AM

Does anyone know if the Palazzo is going to have a dedicated poker room? Considering the V's poker room is pretty close to the walkway, I'd be surprised if they had anything more than a small room.

*TT* · #14 07-16-2007, 03:14 AM

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Does anyone know if the Palazzo is going to have a dedicated poker room? Considering the V's poker room is pretty close to the walkway, I'd be surprised if they had anything more than a small room.

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My understanding is Palazzo is the Venetian extension, its not a new casino.

SenatorKevin · #15 07-16-2007, 03:24 AM

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Does anyone know if the Palazzo is going to have a dedicated poker room? Considering the V's poker room is pretty close to the walkway, I'd be surprised if they had anything more than a small room.

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My understanding is Palazzo is the Venetian extension, its not a new casino.

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It's weird. I seem to get a different answer from everyone I talk to there. I asked my host and she said in terms of comps it will act as a separate casino. (In other words, I'm not getting a free room there by playing at the V) This was a few months ago, so its possible things are still up in the air.

Apparently they have some sick setup for their villas with direct access to the new Baccarat room. Not that I plan on ever taking advantage of that.

RydenStoompala · #16 07-16-2007, 03:29 AM

I've got six days of play so far this year at the Venetian and I have zero complaints. When I want limit games I go elsewhere. The lack of limit got me to play NL where I am sometimes more comfortable anyway. It was profitable and the room is really well run. The poker rate at the hotel was also applied without hassle, although checking out is still an adventure. Bellagio is my spot for limit games because I like $15-30 hold'em, mixed games and stud. V is a different experience and it should stay that way.

schwerd2 · #17 07-16-2007, 07:41 AM

limit holdem sux anyway

psandman · #18 07-16-2007, 09:44 AM

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I don’t see how a deep stacked low buyin tournament makes sense from anyone’s perspective. The rake per table hour has to be crazy low on a $300 tournament that lasts two days. And from a player perspective there’s no way to have a high hourly earn rate with such a small prize pool for the hours played. Am I missing something here?

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Full tables earn more than empty tables. Even if the $/hour for the tournament time is less than that of a ring game, when the choice is between emty tables earning $0/hour and full tabkes earning a reduced amount per hour there is little question which is better.

If you spent time at the Venetian last month you would have seen that the room was very busy and it is quite certain that it is related to both the WSOP being going on AND the DeepStack tournaments bringing in many players.

Abe · #19 07-16-2007, 10:30 AM

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Abe - you read the B&M forum, I'm shocked this surprised you.

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I only hang out on this forum because of the good management.

Seriously, thanks to all for the comments and explanations.

I had enjoyed playing the "V" room last year; they had 3-6, 6-12, 9-18 and a nice 6-12 Mixed Game. Was expecting this year would be 4-8, 8-16, 15-30?, and maybe a mixed game.

Was surprised at their approach this year --we have 10 tables of cash games and they're all NL -- No games and no list for Limit players. Come back later, maybe there will be some tonight. Next year, I might try a walk in again to see if their approach is different.

But it may be a good thing if they just do NL games. That way there would be even more Limit games and levels going at Wynn and Mirage.

Temp Hutter · #20 07-16-2007, 10:55 AM

This is strictly anecdotal, but I went over to the Venetian on one of my days off from the WSOP ME to play in their deep stacked tournament. I busted relatively early and stayed and played for the better part of the day. The tournament did exactly what they wanted it to do - attracted a player to their cash games. Between the Bellagio tournament and the Venetian tournament I chose the latter and they ended up getting my cash game play as well.