NL10 stupid big overbets

Brocken · #1 10-19-2007, 09:47 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($9.64)
Hero ($14.74)
SB ($10.88)
BB ($11.11)
UTG ($2.90)
UTG+1 ($1.75)
UTG+2 ($7.79)
MP1 ($9.94)
MP2 ($9.35)
MP3 ($1.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
6 folds, CO raises to $0.3, Hero raises to $0.9, 2 folds, CO calls $0.60.

Flop: ($1.95) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1, CO calls $1.

Turn: ($3.95) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO calls $9.64 (All-In), Hero ...

I know the flop bet should have been larger.

Got no stats on the guy. This seems to happen all the time :/

ceavou22 · #2 10-19-2007, 09:54 AM

Raise more preflop (round $1.20). Pot Flop for obv reasons. Fold to the worse card in the deck for us on the turn.

Northern · #3 10-19-2007, 09:56 AM

Sorry for not having too much info for this specific hand. But I've been playing a fair bit of 10NL lately and noticed this as well, sometimes I;ve called while others I've folded. What I've noticed most of the time at this level is "big bets mean big hands", there's a lot of hands that can beat you so I would probably be forced to fold.

Had he have been a SS, then yes insta-call as I've been playing extra attention to them at this level and rarley will they have you beat.

BotOnTilt · #4 10-20-2007, 04:00 PM

I'd fold, because I don't see villains bluffing that often in these spots.

I don't see him having a 9 very often, but AsXs got there.

jlp_2908 · #5 10-20-2007, 04:03 PM

Rule is, A big bet on the river at 10nl is a value bet and they have the goods...Probaly the same on the turn too, I would fold

speedle · #6 10-20-2007, 04:37 PM

Bigger re-raise pre flop and pot the flop.

As played.. fold the turn.

ElectricWaffles · #7 10-20-2007, 05:47 PM

I think the raise preflop is okay. I like 3betting around 3x the original bet. No problem raising to 4x also, in my opinion, you've got position. Personally I dont mind seeing a flop before I start putting lots of money in, so maybe i'm a bit conservative with my raises preflop... it remains to be seen if that's any good hehe...

I pot the flop too. I dont think 1/2 pot cuts it because there are a whole bunch of possible draws. Also with KK I'd prefer to know if i'm good sooner rather than later, so I dont go broke with it, to which I can be prone. A bigger bet achieves that.

As played I think the turn is a fold, basically for the same reasons that are layed out above, I've got nothing extra to add really =)

Hope that's lucid enough. (Hope it's correct too! lol)

wire · #8 10-20-2007, 07:12 PM

My KKs have been getting knocked around too. Reraise 3x or 4x preflop, it doesn't matter, someone will call it.

Mis-playing these big overpairs is a costly leak. It's one of mine. I'm always worried about the "set monster under the bed".

You can't call his donkshove. Even on a dry board, it's a tough spot to call an all-in with just an overpair. If he had donkshoved on the flop, however, you should consider calling it. But not be ecstatic about it.