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Old 12-19-2006, 04:28 AM
SEABEAST SEABEAST is offline
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Default Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

SB is Equal, BB is some shortstacked uberdonk.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($910.45)
Button ($826.50)
SB ($755.40)
BB ($259.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.

<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $22</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $62</font>, BB calls $59.

Hero...

Equal definitely threebets light and I'm certain BB is calling with any two to a fourbet. I was really unsure of an amount in this spot, because I didn't want to offer Equal attractive pot odds given that he probably knew the BB was going to juice the pot and we were semi deep. Thus, I shoved, but it felt pretty donkish reraising 65 with 700 even though I knew the BB was going to call. Suggestions for amounts? Can I entice AK/QQ to shove if I fourbet to 300 or so?
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Old 12-19-2006, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

just make it 150-200, AK never wants to call off a shove here
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Old 12-19-2006, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

Isn't that way too low? 150 is virtually a minreraise, with 2 opponents...
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Old 12-19-2006, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

A minreraise is to like $102. I'd raise maybe $200?
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

yeah 200 looks good
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

200 fold to shove
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

Make it 250 to go. I think its pretty obvious what to do here.
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

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200 fold to shove

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laying down KK pre-flop 4-handed is a monster mistake, espically against an aggressive player like Equal.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

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200 fold to shove

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you have to be kidding
225 is what i'd bet
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Old 12-19-2006, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Party 3/6 slightly awkward preflop spot vs 2+2er and donk

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200 fold to shove

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you have to be kidding
225 is what i'd bet

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Fold to shove tho??? Right?!?!
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