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Old 12-21-2006, 05:05 PM
SEABEAST SEABEAST is offline
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Default 2/4 party trips deep vs LAG

Villain is Infoman007, don't have stats cos my HUD is screwed atm but he's a superaggro regular LAG who seems very bad from what I've seen. Nevertheless he's a multitabler and frequently has big stacks so he maybe deserves some benefit of the doubt this deep. Thoughts on the hand overall, and what's my river play? My thinking for most of the hand was he either had spades, a bluff, or a bigger 7/fullhouse in roughly that order. FWIW I was planning to checkraise most nonspade turns but the K and his subsequent bet gave me pause, as it seemed like WA/WB unless he had spades, and I wasn't entirely comfortable either folding or calling a reraise.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($360.60)
CO ($302.42)
Button ($1709.09)
SB ($457.80)
Hero ($1114.80)
UTG ($962.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($34) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $75</font>, Hero calls $51.

Turn: ($184) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $144</font>, Hero calls $144.

River: ($472) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $444</font>.

Hero...
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party trips deep vs LAG

i am calling this given your read. although, if he is decent, he should know exactly what you have after the turn
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party trips deep vs LAG

I'd 3-bet flop OOP. Since you just called the flop and turn, a river donk is probably best.

The way you played the whole hand, call the river IMO. It's hard to put a LAGgish guy on a better hand in a button vs. blind situation.
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party trips deep vs LAG

On the river as played, I'd push over the 444.

He'll call with his AA~
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party trips deep vs LAG

Anyone else shove here?

I didn't really ever consider folding because this villain is just too aggressive, was mostly curious about my line in general (setting up turn CR but then shying away because the K kills action vs most previously showdown worthy things I beat) and whether there was any value shoving the river.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party trips deep vs LAG

I think shoving the river is pretty bad. His calling range has WAY more hands that beat you than you beat.

Rest of the line looks fine, although I don't really like your plan to c/r a blank turn, unless you really think he can't get away from a big pair.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party trips deep vs LAG

I don't think there is much if any value to shoving. He either is bluffing here or has us beat, IMO. Occasionally he'll be overplaying AA/AK but I think usually by betting full pot on the river like this he either is bluffing or has a full house/better 7.

I don't see how you can fold though, but I don't like a push at all.
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party trips deep vs LAG

Yeah that was pretty much my thinking. I really felt like either he was bluffing, or I was crushed.

As it turns out he had the one hand I think I might have gotten more value from, AA... Good call Slider [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I do still feel like pushing would be -ev vs his range though.
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