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Old 05-08-2007, 09:00 PM
basser basser is offline
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Default 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $17.66
BB: $2.20
UTG: $11.96
UTG+1: $1.79
MP1: $9.46
MP2: $8.34
MP3: $9.89
CO: $1.70
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $11.23</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $1.60</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises all-in to $9.46</font>, MP2 calls all-in for $6.74, Hero ??

No reads. Would following the "fourth raise means aces" rule be a good choice here?
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Old 05-08-2007, 10:54 PM
Jay.Yang Jay.Yang is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

Good 4-bet. Good Fold.
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

Welcome to the forum.

I now know exactly what a 4-bet is. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:53 PM
Jay.Yang Jay.Yang is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

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I now know exactly what a 4-bet is.

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I am always confusing with the terminology. I think hero 4-bet, and MP1 5-bet all-in. Correct me if I am wrong
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Old 05-09-2007, 02:24 AM
lemming lemming is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

true...

Folding seems right for me against unknown Villains... If I see this play against some 60/20 and 40/18, I'm calling, seeing some 33 and AJ... Anything else, I'm folding! Well done imo
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Old 05-09-2007, 02:27 AM
Das Budrick Das Budrick is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

I'd fold this against two unknowns that have both quickly gone all in preflop
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Old 05-09-2007, 10:04 AM
Landlord79 Landlord79 is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

What about the hero's 4-bet? Is this standard w/ QQ after having a raise and reraise ahead of him? I mean, he obviously got very clean information with the 5-bet behind him, but is it standard to 4 bet w/ QQ?
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Old 05-09-2007, 10:30 AM
Dennisa Dennisa is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

I think you are priced in here. Pot is $20.00 and you have $5.50 to call against 2 all ins. It just under 4:1 which is what you need to call for set value. Occasionally you will have the best hand or be up against AK twice.
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Old 05-09-2007, 11:18 AM
Jay.Yang Jay.Yang is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

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It just under 4:1 which is what you need to call for set value

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I don't know much about the math... Chance of getting a set on Flop is around 8:1. Chance of hitting a set from PF to River is 4:1?
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Old 05-09-2007, 11:26 AM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: 10 NL: QQ vs 4 bet

I would have called MP2's raise and folded to a re-raise by MP1.

As played, I agree with Dennisa. I think you have the odds to call this. (Isn't it about 4.2:1 to hit a set by the river with pp?)
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