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[futuredoc85]

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River bettor is 44/15/1.27. How's my line this time?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $67.65
UTG: $82.95
CO: $17.30
BTN: $55.20
Hero (SB): $132.35

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($4) 6 5 J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($4) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3, CO folds, BTN calls $3

River: ($13) J (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $5.50</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $5.50

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I lead the flop and I b/f the river. I don't like c/c the river because he's passive and is going to check behind worse hands he might call with, and the draw got there so he can't really be bluffing that often.

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do we check the turn if we get 2 callers on this flop or keep betting ?

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bet/fold turn and bet/fold any river that doesnt hit the draws or improve our hand enough to b/c i think. def. bet river here

[Scuba Chuck]

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Finally, sometimes you should try to put your opponent on a bluffing hand, rather than trying to put them on a real hand. In this situation the potential real hands are obvious - primarily KQ and 77 - so your thinking should be directed at coming up with a bluffing hand they might play like this. I can't think of any because the minraise on the flop is too weird. It exposes them to a reraise while not giving you any chance to fold. I guess AJdd, ATdd and JTdd are possible, but I can't think of any others.

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Hmmm, this is not something I've ever considered. Unless you're only referring to semi-bluffing hands. Otherwise, people bluff with all kinds of crap. No way to know what they might be bluffing with.

In this hand, I don't think I could have ever guessed villains hand. Bah, I think this hand is still a fold, I'm just a station sometimes.

Here's the cleaned up hand history:

Seat 1: coldchemist ($62)
Seat 2: clacey ($10)
Seat 3: Anzat ($33.55)
Seat 5: MaxPowerAA ($138.10)
Seat 6: Scuba Chuck ($46.60)
Scuba Chuck posts the small blind of $0.10
coldchemist posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scuba Chuck [Ah As]
clacey calls $0.25
Anzat folds
Scuba Chuck raises to $1.25
coldchemist calls $1
clacey folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Qd 7c]
Scuba Chuck bets $2
coldchemist raises to $4
Scuba Chuck has 15 seconds left to act
Scuba Chuck calls $2
*** TURN *** [Kd Qd 7c] [Th]
Scuba Chuck checks
coldchemist bets $10.75
Scuba Chuck calls $10.75
*** RIVER *** [Kd Qd 7c Th] [3c]
Scuba Chuck checks
coldchemist bets $32.25
Scuba Chuck has 15 seconds left to act
Scuba Chuck has requested TIME
Scuba Chuck calls $30.60, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $1.65 returned to coldchemist
*** SHOW DOWN ***
coldchemist shows [8s Qs] a pair of Queens
Scuba Chuck shows [Ah As] a pair of Aces
Scuba Chuck wins the pot ($90.45) with a pair of Aces

[K䲰䮥n]

I'm all lost in these numbers since I've been usin PO my whole poker life and this just is too much for my knowledge. So if you spot a strange number, please yell at me. These are from this month.





My standard is to call vs. 3bets (against non-maniac) with AK, JJ and QQ. I hardly ever 4bet those. Is that a leak?

[Josem]

Karp,

Stats look great.

call v 3bet% seems a little high. i'm a big fan of either folding or 4betting.

otherwise, you end up with a big pot, where opponent probably has a solid hand and the opponent has the initiative. the correct response really depends on what range your opponent is on.

[futuredoc85]

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Karp,

Stats look great.

call v 3bet% seems a little high. i'm a big fan of either folding or 4betting.

otherwise, you end up with a big pot, where opponent probably has a solid hand and the opponent has the initiative. the correct response really depends on what range your opponent is on.

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position is huge, i 4-bet much much less in position than out

[K䲰䮥n]

Most people fold all but QQ+ and AK to 4bets. In the long run is it more profitable to 4bet with AK or call a 3bet (if Hero has position)?

By 4bettin AK I make the dominated aces fold. The ones which I'd stack on Axx flops.

But is there enough money on the pot already to make 4betting IP profitable in order the 3bettor is 3betting like 8%?

[cleinen]

sb is 24/12

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $72.05
Hero (BB): $50.55
UTG: $74.40
CO: $45.25
BTN: $8.20

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($6) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48.55 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $18.55

[cleinen]

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $53.70
BTN: $96.90
SB: $108.25
BB: $44.20

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $7</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($14.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($32.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($32.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $18</font>, Hero folds

Results: $32.50 Pot ($1.55 Rake)
SB mucked and WON $30.95 (+$14.95 NET)

[futuredoc85]

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Most people fold all but QQ+ and AK to 4bets. In the long run is it more profitable to 4bet with AK or call a 3bet (if Hero has position)?

By 4bettin AK I make the dominated aces fold. The ones which I'd stack on Axx flops.

But is there enough money on the pot already to make 4betting IP profitable in order the 3bettor is 3betting like 8%?

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i noticed the same thing as far as peoples reaction to 4-bets at those levels. on your site, what would you guess the average 3-betting range is for a TAG regular that folds all but QQ+,AK to a 4-bet?

[cleinen]

Hero screwed this hand up. Hero should call and check fold the turn correct? Villian is 36/10 but over a small amt of hands.
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $68.10
BTN: $65.35
Hero (SB): $75.70
BB: $74.80
UTG: $61.30

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $5

Flop: ($14.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero