Value betting in Giant pot--5/10 live

[dedenburn]

Live 5/10 game, 10 handed. This was my first hand at the table. I came in in the CO and posted blind.

Hero is CO with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, next five limp, Hero raises. Button cold calls both blinds and limpers call (18SB)

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds Hero raises, button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 re-raises, UTG+2 calls, all MP's call, hero caps, everyone calls (23 BB)

Turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG+1 bets, 3 call, hero raises, button calls, BB folds, everyone else calls. (35 BB)

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Everyone checks to hero. Hero....???

I have two trains of thought here
-bet, because just about anything will call in this huge pot.
-check, because there are five hands out there and turn/river is just plain ugly.

What do yall think?

[mntndrew]

Instabet. What kind of club hands are playing this flop? No reason to think 54 is out there given the turn action. No reason to think QQ is out there either. I don't get why the turn and river are bad at all. Bet/call the river.

[fuzz66]

BET!!!!

[Esso]

Bet.

The flush coming in runner runner is very different than if there was a two-flush on the flop.

[DeuceKicker]

Bet and prepare to be amazed

[jesse8888]

1. Bet.
2. Get called by Q2s, 67, QJ, and a pair of eights. Probably in that order.
3. Profit.

[KitCloudkicker]

if you think this is an "ugly" river you're in for a rude awakening playing live limit hold em.

[pzhon]

First, this is a type of situation in which you can bet the river for value even if you don't think you will win 50% of the time. People will call and overcall with many weaker hands because the pot is huge, so you expect to put in less than 50% of the money even though you are prepared to pay off a raise.

Second, you shouldn't be as scared of a backdoor flush hitting as when someone could have had a flush draw on the flop. This is basic hand-reading.

Third, you should be ahead well over 80% of the time. I think failing to bet will cost you more than 1 BB on average. If someone had 54 for the straight, he made the nuts on the turn and didn't raise you with a vulnerable hand. Even passive live players will often find a raise with the nuts.

[numbnuts007]

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First, this is a type of situation in which you can bet the river for value even if you don't think you will win 50% of the time. People will call and overcall with many weaker hands because the pot is huge, so you expect to put in less than 50% of the money even though you are prepared to pay off a raise.

Second, you shouldn't be as scared of a backdoor flush hitting as when someone could have had a flush draw on the flop. This is basic hand-reading.

Third, you should be ahead well over 80% of the time. I think failing to bet will cost you more than 1 BB on average. If someone had 54 for the straight, he made the nuts on the turn and didn't raise you with a vulnerable hand. Even passive live players will often find a raise with the nuts.

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good 'splaining

[gobbledygeek]

Is this still an instabet if two flush cards came on flop and third on river?

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