.02/.05 ATo facing turn push

metsfan88 · #1 07-17-2007, 01:33 AM

UTG has been pretty solid and hasn't shown any crazy moves. I don't have poker tracker so I have no stats on him.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($10)
SB ($12.02)
BB ($10.55)
UTG ($4.20)
UTG+1 ($2.42)
MP1 ($7.48)
MP2 ($7.83)
Hero ($4.47)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $0.1, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, BB calls $0.05.

Flop: ($0.52) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.15, BB calls $0.15, UTG calls $0.15, UTG+1 calls $0.15, MP1 calls $0.15.

Turn: ($1.27) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $3.95 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $2.17 (All-In), MP1 folds, Hero ??

I probably should have bet more on the flop because it could seem like a bet just to get people to fold. Villian's turn push confuses me though. Call or fold?

Jzo19 · #2 07-17-2007, 02:04 AM

fold.

bghbgh2 · #3 07-17-2007, 03:02 AM

I would fold.

UTG could be bluffing, and if UTG+1 didn't call, I would consider long and hard to call. The check on the flop from UTG , in retrospect, could be a standard check after hitting his 55 or 66 wired pair.

The 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the turn could indicate a possible wired 33, which may also explain the min-raise PF. Given that there are two hearts on the turn + a slightly more coordinate board, I would be more inclined to think that UTG has a set.

I would peg UTG+1 on a wide range of hands, but it doesn't really matter to me. The fact that he calls the all-in tells me he is willing to showdown. I think that TPTK will not hold up here.

Feedback on my (newbie) analysis is appreciated.

QuadLaser · #4 07-17-2007, 03:08 AM

turbo fold, I would fold to the push alone... let alone the call. TPTK is never good here.

lacrymosa · #5 07-17-2007, 03:26 AM

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DaycareInferno · #6 07-17-2007, 03:34 AM

you always need to have a stronger hand to overcall than to call in a given situation, regardless of the improved pot odds, because the odds that you have the best hand are dramatically lower. you have a good hand, but not a hand that can double overcall an all-in overbet.

your problems really start preflop here though. you don't ever really want to cold-call raises with hands like ATo/KJo, etc. even though its just a miniraise, and even though 2 people called, creating good odds, this isn't the kind of hand you want in this spot. you want something like a small pair or a suited hand that has some big pot power. if you don't have a hand like that, you should either dump your hand (ATo), or raise coming in (QQ).

also, you shouldn't ever make tiny bets on the flop. usually you want to bet somewhere between 1/2 to slightly above the ammount already in the pot, based on number of opponents, texture of the board, and strength of hand. in this case, you have a strong but vulnerable hand with many players in the pot, so you should be betting somewhere in the neighborhood of the ammount of the pot.

cooker3 · #7 07-17-2007, 03:46 AM

Fold pf, bet much more on the flop and fold the turn