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Old 10-21-2007, 11:30 PM
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Default 100NL:Line on bottom set

I feel like I might have butchered the turn and river. Villain is 16/8/2.5 and a regular. Pretty good.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($130)
Hero ($173)
MP2 ($70.20)
MP3 ($42.65)
CO ($47)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($194.45)
BB ($107)
UTG ($118.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1|UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Flop: ($9.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1|UTG+1 bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, UTG+1|UTG+1 calls $13.

Turn: ($49.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1|UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($49.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1|UTG+1 bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32.

Final Pot: $113.50

Basically when he calls my raise I think he has AJ or mabey AQ/AK. Axd of broadway is possible, but I dont want to get him credit for that specific a hand. A larger set is possible but unlikely on the FD board. Should I bet the turn risking pushing him off AK/AJ? Is there value in a river raise since 1010 wouldnt call flop and A10 isnt in his ep range?
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:35 PM
BlueBear BlueBear is offline
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Default Re: 100NL:Line on bottom set

With all these draws lying around (suited cards, 3-to-a-broadway), I think you need to bet the turn here. Charging the draws should take precedence over controlling the pot here.

I don't think A-J usually folds here, and if he does, you can run him over in the future.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: 100NL:Line on bottom set

Raising the flop is good but I think your flop raise is too small and give away your hand strength.

And bet the turn, there are too many "scare cards" what killing action on the river or beats you. Protect your hand and try extract so much money as possible.

As played river is fine.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: 100NL:Line on bottom set

The turn hurts my eyes. Please bet like $38.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: 100NL:Line on bottom set

yea i butchered it.

should i raise this river since i didnt bet turn. 1010 and A10 arnt in his range and AQ/AK might make a crying call thinking im bluffing with worse.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: 100NL:Line on bottom set

I'm definitely not raising the river as the hand played out.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: 100NL:Line on bottom set

Please please please bet the turn. At the minimum $35.

The river sucks, but as played you need to call - I see no hands calling a raise that you beat (you fold out all two pair hands).
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: 100NL:Line on bottom set

I like the flop bet personally, you need to really charge him to stay in as there are so many draws. Definitely pot the turn as well, and as c/c that cooler of a river.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: 100NL:Line on bottom set

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I like the flop bet personally, you need to really charge him to stay in as there are so many draws. Definitely pot the turn as well, and as c/c that cooler of a river.

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He can't c/c the river because he is in position [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If it gets checked to you on the river, I don't really think there is enough value for you to throw a bet out there on this board unless you think a big two pair hand will call, which depends on the opponent.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: 100NL:Line on bottom set

as played we shove river everytime, if he has a higher set its a cooler if he has AK you are losing value.

oh bet turn everytime too.
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