25NL: Flop B'way on Flush Board - Board Pairs on River - 320BB Pot

[negipai98]

Thoughts on how to play this one? No solid reads on villain although he seemed reasonably straightforward. I had been fairly aggressive so far pre-flop (not out of line but more active than most) but had not shown down any weak hands yet.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)
saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($39)</font>
UTG+1 ($19.35)
MP1 ($24.75)
MP2 ($5.85)
MP3 ($19.30)
CO ($3.10)
Button ($31.90)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($48.55)</font>
BB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.85, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $1.55</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.60, MP3 calls $0.60.

Flop: ($4.70) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2, MP3 folds.

Turn: ($8.70) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, SB calls $6.

River: ($26.70) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $26.55 (All-In)</font>, SB calls $26.55.

Final Pot: $79.80

Results aside (which I'll post later if anyone cares) I can't say I liked how I played this hand on any sreet except for pre-flop. Any ideas/thoughts would be hugely appreciated.

[Chargers In 07]

I would raise flop. Having not done that the turn is fine. I'd check the river.

[Dorian008]

First fold Preflop, KQs UTG isn't a great hand

second u have to raise that flop! u want to protect ur hand!

u don't want to see a 4th diamond or the board paired on the turn

[RapidEvolution]

KQs is a borderline raise for me UTG, but I could just be a nit. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

PLEASE raise this flop. Villain's either pricing himself with a 1-diamond hand or trying to buy the pot cheap. Raise more on the turn as well. (12-14) Check behind on the river. The A is just about the worst card you could see here (except a diamond of course) as any set or 2pair hand including an ace just passed you. This is one of those situations where only better hands will call you.
Learn to spot situations like this and ask yourself if anything that you beat will call here. If not, it's better to just check behind. (The same goes for folding out things that beat you, but the only things that beat you are flushes and full houses and they ain't folding!) [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[SABR42]

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Check behind on the river. The A is just about the worst card you could see here (except a diamond of course) as any set or 2pair hand including an ace just passed you. This is one of those situations where only better hands will call you.

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This is horrible advice.

River is an easy shove if you do some hand reading.

[RapidEvolution]

The only hands that make sense here (in terms of preflop, flop and turn) are KxKd and QxQd and AxKd. I think these hands would have to be pretty terrible to call a shove from a UTG raiser on this river.

[AllTheCheese]

Flat-calling the flop is beyond disgusting. SBs range nailed that board and we have what is effectively the nuts.

[WantToLearn]

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This is horrible advice.

River is an easy shove if you do some hand reading.

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So what´s the range you give him?

[SABR42]

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So what´s the range you give him?

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AK, AQ, or KK and QQ with a diamond.

Anything that makes a boat, would have likely shoved on the turn.

[negipai98]

Glad to see this sparked some debate. Agreed, smooth calling his flop bet was dumb (I was trying for a little deception but...yeah...). Turn bet too small...got it. Here's the thing though when the river came - 9 times out of 10 I check behind there since I'm not beating most of what he can call me with. But in going through the hand while exhausting my time bank his having me beat just didn't add up.

- If he hit his set on the flop with JJ or TT, why would he bet so small on both the flop and the turn, and then only smooth call my 3-bet on the turn? The check on the river just continued his pattern of playing the hand fairly weakly. If he had a boat, would he really want to risk me checking behind, which I likely would do with a straight, flush or 2-pair?

- A flush would make sense, but since Ad was already out there as was Jd and the Td, the only real possibility I considered was KdQd. Certainly a possibility, but I gave it slightly less credence since I also had K,Q. Also, wouldn't he want to get more money in on the turn rather than giving me a chance to boat up if he's thinking I have a set?

Again, I usually check here for all the valid reasons stated already. But as SABR pointed out there were several hands that he could have felt good about (especially since I just called on the flop - potentially making him think I was looking for the diamond with a KK or QQ type hand) and might actually call with, so I went ahead and fired.

Hindsight is of course 20/20, but it worked out in the end since he called with As,Qs and paid me off.

Thanks all for the good advice - definitely some great feedback.