petition for the return of TE

[LesJ]

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LesJ,

You can build all the strawmen and dangle all the red herrings you want, but that still doesn't make them valid. And if you really believe in your own strawman, then it only proves you don't think very well.

Here's a clue: fighting to make a better and more effective PPA is fighting the UIGEA.

And as I noted above, TE and the PPA are free to use these forums to urge posters to fight the UIGEA. They just aren't free to demand certain actions of Mason/2p2 or not conduct themselves in an open and professional manner. TE was doing this thing fine lately *until he felt it necessary to bait Mason and demand he take certain actions*, and *DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE PPA REFUSES TO ADDRESS LEGITIMATE ISSUES OF BOARD COMPOSITION AND TRANSPARENCY.

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Exactly the response I expected. Thanks for the verification.

Maybe I am ignorant, Bluff, but I didn't realize it had to be a zero-sum game for you. Surely as a poker player you are adept at multi-tasking. Are you saying that because you are critical of the PPA that you are somehow totally incapable of using any of your great talents to also fight the UIGEA? Maybe if you fought the regulations with the same ferocity that you fight the only organization that is working for us you would gain some credibility. Perhaps you would even win some people over to thought processes concerning the makeup of the Board of Directors. The only way the makeup of the Board will change is if the grass roots members of the PPA care enough to make it a priority. A couple of articulate, yet extremely INACTIVE naggers on an internet message board is not going to make it happen.

Les

[BluffTHIS!]

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The only way the makeup of the Board will change is if the grass roots members of the PPA care enough to make it a priority

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And the only way that will happen is if those grass roots members are made aware of why they should care, and see erroneous arguments to the contrary rebutted.

And here's a clue: I've written my fair share of letters to Congress and emails to corporations *despite the fact* that is mostly a waste of time with my specific legislators (think Foes of Fun And Damn the WTO All The Way).

You can keep up with the ad hominems and strawmen and such you want (lol at zero sum game), but the issues won't go away *unless* they are addressed by the board.

[chrisptp]

[x] would prefer this forum with regular participation of TE than without

[Uglyowl]

Somehow pre-board appointment and post-board appointment has somehow made Engineer from a hard working guy fighting for our rights to a villian to some. What a shame

[Legislurker]

Ive not made him a villain and I don't think Bluff has. Theres more than meets the eye to the friction between the PPA and Mason. This is Mason's place and TE got snide with him. Poker like most of life is full of egos. No one wants him gone that Im aware of. I don't think begging is seemly at all. We aren't the ragged stepchildren wanting acceptance from the PPA. You can't just hang out a sign, hand some mney to Congress, and say you're the representatives of poker. Well, you can, but expect to be called on it.