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Old 05-22-2007, 09:26 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: intersting spot early in FTOPS $500

the minraise means nothing. the 3 bet can be a bunch of things, some of which beat you, but I'm not folding 2 pair on an 853 board.

if worst comes to worst, river an 8.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: intersting spot early in FTOPS $500

shove IMO

min raiser folds limper shows 99-QQ or flush draw. Board bricks either way and two pair wins

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Old 05-22-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: intersting spot early in FTOPS $500

Is today opposite day or something? This looks like a ridiculously easy fold to me. I realize not everyone can read hands and there are satellites and yada yada, but your lines looks a LOT like at least two pair, you don't even have the best two pair, and two people are ready to play with you.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: intersting spot early in FTOPS $500

shove sometimes and fold sometimes, but shove usually
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:38 PM
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Is today opposite day or something? This looks like a ridiculously easy fold to me. I realize not everyone can read hands and there are satellites and yada yada, but your lines looks a LOT like at least two pair, you don't even have the best two pair, and two people are ready to play with you.

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Agreed.

I know the overbet looks donkish, but we are not great against a donkish push range, and does 99 really overbet jam here?

If it does its closer, but I think the jammers have the overpush range too wide.

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Old 05-22-2007, 10:48 PM
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Is today opposite day or something? This looks like a ridiculously easy fold to me. I realize not everyone can read hands and there are satellites and yada yada, but your lines looks a LOT like at least two pair, you don't even have the best two pair, and two people are ready to play with you.

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Your line looks like 2 pair? You mean betting once looks like 2 pair?
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: intersting spot early in FTOPS $500

stick it in.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:03 PM
Foucault Foucault is offline
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Is today opposite day or something? This looks like a ridiculously easy fold to me. I realize not everyone can read hands and there are satellites and yada yada, but your lines looks a LOT like at least two pair, you don't even have the best two pair, and two people are ready to play with you.

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Your line looks like 2 pair? You mean betting once looks like 2 pair?

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I misread the action. I thought all the preflop stuff was a bet of 60, a couple callers, and then a c/r to 300 by OP out of the BB.

I'm still not thrilled about it, but given that the action is just bet, min-raise, jam, I could see getting it in here. This at least convinces me that everyone else isn't crazy.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:18 PM
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I'mintrigued on how this hand played out / what they had.
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:54 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: intersting spot early in FTOPS $500

I am also shoving this although I might find a fold in a live tourney.

Pocket pairs, flush draws, 67, and A8s, are all distinct enough possibilities to give us significant equity in the hand.
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