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Old 08-21-2007, 10:15 AM
xxThe_Lebowskixx xxThe_Lebowskixx is offline
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Default black people still not equals in america?

does anyone else still feel bad that black people are not treated as equals in america? whites get more money and are less likely to go to jail. going to jail makes black fathers less likely to have time to spend with their baby's momma which causes her to work two jobs to support her baby's daddy baby. this causes a repeat cycle.

there are some black models as professional athletes and music performer but hollywood is still racist. black people are always the token guy or the best friend or they play the cliche "mr hip" black guy. you never see a normal black guy and on shows like nikeloden for kids they never show a black guy with a white girl because itd scare the white kid audience cause its on cable.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:25 AM
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Referring to human beings as whites or blacks is not exactly helping.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:25 AM
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Mindblowing analysis!
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:44 AM
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Ummmm, looking at a few of KKF's posts across the forums today, methinks he's spent an hour too many in an opium den today. That said, still more entertaining then a lot of the silliness spewing about today in poli.


PS KKF, you and I better start making covert plans for a quick escape whence China overuns Thailand.
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:07 AM
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does anyone else still feel bad that black people are not treated as equals in america? whites get more money and are less likely to go to jail. going to jail makes black fathers less likely to have time to spend with their baby's momma which causes her to work two jobs to support her baby's daddy baby. this causes a repeat cycle.

there are some black models as professional athletes and music performer but hollywood is still racist. black people are always the token guy or the best friend or they play the cliche "mr hip" black guy. you never see a normal black guy and on shows like nikeloden for kids they never show a black guy with a white girl because itd scare the white kid audience cause its on cable.

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To some extent you might be to be confusing "equal results" with "equal treatment". Equal treatment DOES NOT GUARANTEE the production of equal results.
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:12 AM
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does anyone else still feel bad that black people are not treated as equals in america? whites get more money and are less likely to go to jail. going to jail makes black fathers less likely to have time to spend with their baby's momma which causes her to work two jobs to support her baby's daddy baby. this causes a repeat cycle.

there are some black models as professional athletes and music performer but hollywood is still racist. black people are always the token guy or the best friend or they play the cliche "mr hip" black guy. you never see a normal black guy and on shows like nikeloden for kids they never show a black guy with a white girl because itd scare the white kid audience cause its on cable.

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To some extent you might be to be confusing "equal results" with "equal treatment". Equal treatment DOES NOT GUARANTEE the production of equal results.

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Assuming sames opportunities, it does for a large population
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:18 AM
John Kilduff John Kilduff is offline
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does anyone else still feel bad that black people are not treated as equals in america? whites get more money and are less likely to go to jail. going to jail makes black fathers less likely to have time to spend with their baby's momma which causes her to work two jobs to support her baby's daddy baby. this causes a repeat cycle.

there are some black models as professional athletes and music performer but hollywood is still racist. black people are always the token guy or the best friend or they play the cliche "mr hip" black guy. you never see a normal black guy and on shows like nikeloden for kids they never show a black guy with a white girl because itd scare the white kid audience cause its on cable.

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To some extent you might be to be confusing "equal results" with "equal treatment". Equal treatment DOES NOT GUARANTEE the production of equal results.

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Assuming sames opportunities, it does for a large population

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It doesn't mean that diverse groups within that larger population will attain the same results, because diverse groups have their own peculiarities.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:26 PM
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does anyone else still feel bad that black people are not treated as equals in america? whites get more money and are less likely to go to jail. going to jail makes black fathers less likely to have time to spend with their baby's momma which causes her to work two jobs to support her baby's daddy baby. this causes a repeat cycle.

there are some black models as professional athletes and music performer but hollywood is still racist. black people are always the token guy or the best friend or they play the cliche "mr hip" black guy. you never see a normal black guy and on shows like nikeloden for kids they never show a black guy with a white girl because itd scare the white kid audience cause its on cable.

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To some extent you might be to be confusing "equal results" with "equal treatment". Equal treatment DOES NOT GUARANTEE the production of equal results.

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Assuming sames opportunities, it does for a large population

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No it doesn't. Cultural priorities influence the results. The majority of Black America doesn't value education, or stable families, and its leaders have wrapped them in a cult of victimhood. With those handicaps they would need far better opportunity to get equal results.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:47 PM
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No it doesn't. Cultural priorities influence the results. The majority of Black America doesn't value education, or stable families, and its leaders have wrapped them in a cult of victimhood. With those handicaps they would need far better opportunity to get equal results.

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How do you explain those different cultural priorities? I mean it's is rather easy to understand for recent Asian Immigration, but for black Americans? they 've been there a long time...
How come they have'nt been able to fit in? Are they just lazy and don't want to be educated or did history have anything to do with creating those different cultural priorities?
The fact is succes is much harder for a black man than a white in the US. Simply, because on average he is going to grow up in worse conditions.
It's funny how people forgot how easy it is to get into an good college when born into the right family.
And the succes of Asians is laudable. It should not be however a reason to put other communities down.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:33 PM
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There are subcultures in black America that are just as successful as some subcultures in white America are unsuccessful. Culture is a powerful thing and is not easy to change. The roots of what we think of as black culture were addressed by Thomas Sowell in his 2005 book "Black Rednecks & White Liberals". I haven't gotten around to reading it, but it's an interesting thesis.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks-Lib...0910&sr=8-5

As a comedian once pointed out, why is it that some people who have been here for generations can't find a job no matter what, but some poor Mexican guy can find one 15 minutes after his feet are dry? It may be somewhat racist, but it is thought provoking.
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