didn't expect his river bet... what to do?

jenson · #1 01-12-2007, 04:00 PM

Villain is 19.39 VP$IP / 4.42 AF / 17.91 WTSD / 58.33 W$SD over 350 hands

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $212.15
UTG+1: $99.65
MP1: $207.70
Hero: $227
MP3: $42
CO: $239.95
Button: $116.25
SB: $309.35
BB: $41.60

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls, 3 folds, SB raises to $9, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($22, 2 players)
SB bets $13, Hero calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($48, 2 players)
SB bets $29, Hero raises to $58, SB calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($164, 2 players)
SB bets $85, Hero ?

ejay · #2 01-12-2007, 04:04 PM

fold pf, raise a lot more on the turn.

Symbolic · #3 01-12-2007, 04:52 PM

Yeah basically what ejay said.
I'd call initially pf but fold to the raise unless at least 1 or 2 other people had called the raise as well.
As played I'd flat call river probably. Needed to raise to the turn more to charge flush draws, and simply to get more money in the pot.

NYTyler · #4 01-12-2007, 05:00 PM

sorry for being the ignorant one... but where are you getting the stats at the top of your post and what do they mean? I see them a lot and wonder what they mean exactly.

NYTyler · #5 01-12-2007, 05:05 PM

I would be tempted to think that he back doored a straight with maybe something like J7. People do backdoor flushes but it seems like that might not be the case looking at the JH on the flop. I dunno, but he could also have slow played a set here and you may have him beat. I would at least call here and be more persuaded by the fact that he would more likely have a 7 than 2 hearts. Hell I might push here depending on my read. Did you have any reads on this guy, notice any betting patterns, was this guy moving his chips on you a lot. Could be a bluff trying to scare you off with the river heart and possible straight (if he is a donkey maybe). I would at least call here.

keikiwai · #6 01-12-2007, 05:10 PM

plz include pfr when you're playing vs. a villain who pfr-ed

pf is meh

you hit your hand on the turn... there's now 2 FDs out there, pot it at minimum

pot bet on turn is 106+29=$135

PhatPots · #7 01-12-2007, 05:12 PM

this is a call. The pot is huge, he would need to AKs or maybe even Axs, but I think you have to call it and then make some notes afterwards.

scorer · #8 01-12-2007, 05:32 PM

Hero, you have to bet the turn heavier..maybe 70 or so. I'd expect to see a flush here maybe 75 percent of the time. He raised preflop and his likely holding could very well include the ace of hearts.maybe AQ/AK. It's 50/50 what you shoul do here but this line smells very much like flush with 2 overcards as his holdings.