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Old 06-01-2006, 04:56 PM
Runner Runner Runner Runner is offline
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Default Let\'s talk dice control

From reading some stuff about this, I am starting to believe that a good shooter can influence the dice enough by avoiding rolling 7's to gain a significant advantage.

So let's say it is possible. Is it possible to learn this from a book or does one need a coach? Also, how much would the effects of say 5 Bloody Mary's prohibit my ability to gain said advantage?

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Old 06-01-2006, 05:10 PM
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Get Scoblete's books, and you'll need access to to a table that you can practice on for about 2 hours/day for at least a month before you really see any resuls. You'll be recording lots of data too. It's not an easy process.
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Old 06-01-2006, 06:40 PM
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Also, how much would the effects of say 5 Bloody Mary's prohibit my ability to gain said advantage?

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I don't think it'll have any effect at all. I've had as many as 25-30 whiskeys while shooting craps -- and it never had any effect on my advantage.
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Old 06-01-2006, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s talk dice control

I read the books and then got a dice coach. After being with the coach, I can't imagine learning how to precision shoot by just reading the book. Even buying a table and practicing isn't enough, you really need someone there who knows it to watch you.

If booze affects physically in any way, then no, you wouldn't be able to do this while drinking.
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Old 06-01-2006, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s talk dice control

where do you even get a "dice coach" and do you have any success with altering the EV of this game.
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Old 06-02-2006, 12:29 AM
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... do you have any success with altering the EV of this game?

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Google "psychological probability"
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Old 06-02-2006, 12:38 AM
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Google "psychological probability"

[/ QUOTE ]I found this. I guess in Polish it's "prawdopodobienstwo psychologiczne".

Good to know.
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Old 06-02-2006, 01:02 AM
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Didn't the Wizard Of Odds do some trials with this stuff? Anybody remember his findings?

Another question: do any casinos bar people from playing craps? (Besides the beligerent drunk guys that keep throwing the dice across the room in a fit of rage.) Do they ever say "I'm sorry, sir. I'm going to ask you to stop playing our house-advantage games. You're too good."?
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Old 06-02-2006, 01:05 AM
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Dont you dare waiste a penny on info about shooting. Especially not a "dice coach" LOLOL. The cost of lessons is enough to cover the house edge for a good while. You should see those clowns shoot. I see wannabe shooters all the time. Its all psychology as stated by Sheet. You feel better about winning when you think you "caused" the win yourself and not luck. And when you lose , you THEN blame luck, not your worthless shooting attempts.
There are people who can beat it, just like there are Woods and Jordan. Good luck becoming a master! danielson!
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Old 06-02-2006, 03:56 AM
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Yeah he did. IIRC it was only under 1000 shoots with wong's(?) people. IIRC he said the results can't be seen from such a small sample but it seemed like they could do it (I could be way wrong here because I read it like 1 year ago).
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