2008 Presidential Primaries

[Legislurker]

Huckabee with the nomination would be funny. At least Mondale and Dukakis won their home states, Huckabee could be the first candidate to lose every state in the nation.

[MayorHerb]

FWIW, on Al Gore:

Gore Played Poker

Nothing tremendous.. I've had a beer with him, and he's my horse. We can't get the sucker out of the gate, and don't necessarily expect to get any of you to ride along, but he's not an evil uber goober as people think. (Especially the anarchists)

Still got one or two tricks but we're out of time and he's a stubborn mule. He's stuck on saving the world. Go figure.

[TheEngineer]

Latest polls:

Iowa Democratic Caucus
ABC News/Washington Post Poll
Barack Obama 30% ?
Hillary Clinton 26% ?
John Edwards 22% ?
Bill Richardson 11% A
Joe Biden 4% A
Dennis Kucinich 2% A
Chris Dodd 1% F
Unsure 3%
Other 1%

Iowa Republican Caucus
RCP Average
Romney 27.8% F
Huckabee 20.3% F
Giuliani 13.7% ?
Thompson 11.7% ?
McCain 6.5% F
Paul 4.5% A+

New Hampshire Democratic Primary
RCP Average
Clinton 36.0% ?
Obama 23.0% ?
Edwards 13.2% ?
Richardson 8.4% A

New Hampshire Republican Primary
RCP Average
Romney 33.0 F
Giuliani 18.4 ?
McCain 16.2 F
Paul 6.8 A+
Huckabee 6.6 F
Thompson 4.8 ?

Democratic Presidential Nomination
RCP Average
Clinton 42.7 ?
Obama 23.0 ?
Edwards 12.2 ?

Republican Presidential Nomination
RCP Average
Giuliani 28.0% ?
Thompson 14.8% ?
Romney 12.7% F
McCain 12.2% F
Huckabee 9.2% F
Paul 4.6% A+

[TheEngineer]

NH just announced their primary date. Here is where the 2008 primary and caucus calendar stands through Feb. 5:

Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses
Jan. 5 Wyoming Republican caucuses
Jan. 8 New Hampshire primary
Jan. 15 Michigan primary
Jan. 19 Nevada caucuses
Jan. 19 South Carolina Republican primary
Jan. 26 South Carolina Democratic primary
Jan. 29 Florida primary
Feb. 1-2 Maine Republican caucuses
Feb. 5 Alabama primary
Feb. 5 Alaska Democratic caucuses and Republican congressional district convention
Feb. 5 American Samoa Democratic caucuses
Feb. 5 Arizona primary
Feb. 5 Arkansas primary
Feb. 5 California primary
Feb. 5 Coorado caucuses
Feb. 5 Connecticut primary
Feb. 5 Delaware primary
Feb. 5 Georgia primary
Feb. 5 Idaho Democratic caucuses
Feb. 5 Illinois primary
Feb. 5 Kansas Democratic caucuses
Feb. 5 Massachusetts primary
Feb. 5 Minnesota primary
Feb. 5 Missouri primary
Feb. 5 Montana Republican caucuses
Feb. 5 New Jersey primary
Feb. 5 New Mexico Democratic primary
Feb. 5 New York primary
Feb. 5 North Dakota caucuses
Feb. 5 Oklahoma primary
Feb. 5 Tennessee primary
Feb. 5 Utaho primary
Feb. 5 West Virginia Republican convention

[RufiloCaptn]

We need to nominate non beltway insiders from both parties, and ultimately need see an expansion of other parties. A two party state isn't a democracy.

[JuntMonkey]

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We need to nominate non beltway insiders from both parties, and ultimately need see an expansion of other parties. A two party state isn't a democracy.

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I'd love to see Ron Paul (if he doesn't get the nomination), Lou Dobbs, Bloomberg, and Nader all run third-party, and if at least two of them could get into the debates it would be awesome.

[TheEngineer]

I downgraded Huckster from F to F-. From http://pokerplayersalliance.org/news...le.php?DID=289 :

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Mike Huckabee
F-. Baptist minister, former Gov. of Arkansas. As governor, he opposed the Arkansas state lottery.

When asked "Last year, Congress voted overwhelming to criminalize most forms of Internet gambling. This year some members of Congress are promoting legislation to legalize Internet gambling. If such legislation passed, would you veto it?" [an incorrect statement, by the way...playing wasn't criminalized at all] by the National Coalition Against Legalized Gambling, Huckabee answered "yes"!!!!.

Pros: None.

Cons: Sworn enemy of ours...may as well vote for Kyl or Goodlatte.

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[TheEngineer]

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I downgraded Huckster from F to F-. From http://pokerplayersalliance.org/news...le.php?DID=289 :

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Mike Huckabee
F-. Baptist minister, former Gov. of Arkansas. As governor, he opposed the Arkansas state lottery.

When asked "Last year, Congress voted overwhelming to criminalize most forms of Internet gambling. This year some members of Congress are promoting legislation to legalize Internet gambling. If such legislation passed, would you veto it?" [an incorrect statement, by the way...playing wasn't criminalized at all] by the National Coalition Against Legalized Gambling, Huckabee answered "yes"!!!!.

Pros: None.

Cons: Sworn enemy of ours...may as well vote for Kyl or Goodlatte.

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----- Original Message -----
To: information@explorehuckabee.com
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:54 PM
Subject: My view of Gov. Huckabee

Dear Governor Huckabee,

I am a lifelong conservative Republican who happens to enjoy a game of Internet poker on occasion. Your response to the National Coalition Against Legalized Gambling’s candidate integrity quiz, where you stated that you support a federal prohibition on Internet poker, doesn't sound like the stand of a conservative. Rather, it seems you're for limited government until you find something you want. Then, when that happens, the sky's the limit!

First of all, I feel your position is foolishness. If your concern is compulsive behaviors, gaming is at most addictive to 1% of people, and technology can be used to keep those 1% offline via various exclusion and detection programs. Unfortunately, this won't happen under your big government prohibition plan (which involves snooping in peoples' bank accounts and Internet usage histories). Besides that, it's a question of freedom. Why should the rest of us be prevented from enjoying a game of poker in our own homes?

Your position is nothing but a red herring. It seems you simply don't like Internet poker, so you think it should be banned for everyone. Sorry, but that's not my definition of a conservative.

As you can't trust me to make my own decisions, I cannot trust you to represent me. As such, unless you change your mind, I will not vote for you or support your campaign in any way.

Sincerely,

TheEngineer

[JuntMonkey]

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I downgraded Huckster from F to F-. From http://pokerplayersalliance.org/news...le.php?DID=289 :

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Mike Huckabee
F-. Baptist minister, former Gov. of Arkansas. As governor, he opposed the Arkansas state lottery.

When asked "Last year, Congress voted overwhelming to criminalize most forms of Internet gambling. This year some members of Congress are promoting legislation to legalize Internet gambling. If such legislation passed, would you veto it?" [an incorrect statement, by the way...playing wasn't criminalized at all] by the National Coalition Against Legalized Gambling, Huckabee answered "yes"!!!!.

Pros: None.

Cons: Sworn enemy of ours...may as well vote for Kyl or Goodlatte.

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It's disgusting that this is even an issue. People can [censored] gamble if they want to, period, end of story, not debatable, eat a [censored] dick and die if you're stupid enough to think it should be illegal.

Violent revolution soon please.