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Old 01-26-2007, 05:17 PM
Mr. Ratface Mr. Ratface is offline
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Default Probabilty of loing x hands in a row for blackjack

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What is the probability that someone loses x hands in a row for blackjack assuming proper strategy? Is there any formula that someone could give me where all I have to do is replace x by a number?

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Old 01-26-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Probabilty of loing x hands in a row for blackjack

x or more hands in a row: p^x, where p is the chance of losing 1 hand.

exactly x in a row: p^x*(1-p).

I'm sure someone else knows p off the top of his head, but something in the .53 to .55 range, I believe. (You lose considerably more than half of your hands, but make up for it by winning extra after splits and blackjacks.)
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Old 01-29-2007, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: Probabilty of loing x hands in a row for blackjack

The short answer is that the "Martingale" is not a magical unbeatable blackjack strategy.
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: Probabilty of loing x hands in a row for blackjack

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I'm sure someone else knows p off the top of his head, but something in the .53 to .55 range, I believe. (You lose considerably more than half of your hands, but make up for it by winning extra after splits and blackjacks.)

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You don't lose over half of your hands unless you ignore pushes. You lose about 48%, win 43%, and push 9%. This means that you lose about 0.48/(0.48 + 0.43) =~ 53% of all non-pushed hands, so the probability of losing the next x or more non-pushed hands in a row is about (0.53)^x. If we don't ignore pushes, then the probability of losing the next x or more hands in a row is about (0.48)^x.

These numbers do not change much for different rules, different count systems, or even for most realistic counts that arise during a shoe.

EDIT: Changed "deck compositions" to "counts".
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Probabilty of loing x hands in a row for blackjack

Yes, I should have said non-pushed hands... thanks for spelling it out in more detail Bruce
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Probabilty of loing x hands in a row for blackjack

You would have to factor in the rate at which hands are dealt, and how long your average trip to the loo takes.
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