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Old 08-31-2006, 01:22 AM
AZK AZK is offline
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Default i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.

Villain is bad, like real bad, 2 different 2+2ers have told me to buddylist him. He is about 40/20 and pretty aggressive when he has taken the lead. to quote one 2+2er "just let him bluff his stack off to you"...uh, ok? I realize a lot of this could have been avoided by folding the flop, but yeah i'm retarded. Turn 3bet was insta, river all in was insta.


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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $2356.51
UTG+1: $6845.38
CO: $3103
Button: $1967
SB: $851
Hero: $5978

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $60</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($130, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $95</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($320, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $225</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $750</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $2025</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4370, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 is all-in $4665.38</font>,
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.

Given description I stack off all day.
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:31 AM
McShove McShove is offline
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Default Re: i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.

who is villain?
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:31 AM
Prevaricator Prevaricator is offline
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Default Re: i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.

dont understand your turn cr, looks like a bad play to me.
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.

c/c turn, c/c river looks good given villain's description

Leading either the turn or river looks good too, I'm pretty confused as to why you checkraised though. Given how the hand played out, I think I would fold the river, it's hard to say though without having actually played against villain
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Old 08-31-2006, 01:57 AM
Daliman Daliman is offline
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Default Re: i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.

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c/c turn, c/c river looks good given villain's description

Leading either the turn or river looks good too, I'm pretty confused as to why you checkraised though. Given how the hand played out, I think I would fold the river, it's hard to say though without having actually played against villain

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Like he said, C/c turn, C/c river. He's not pounding $$$$ in there on the inital turn bet, so it's likely he will give you a nice, callable # on the river whether he has you or not. Why put yourself in a situation where you have a decision for your whole 3x buyin stack when he can easily have you beat? Play pot control, if he has you this hand, great, if he doesn't, lotta times he folds to your turn CR, so you gain little by raising there, and lose his river bluff $$$.

If this guy is as bad as you say he is, don't get into a war with this vulnerable a hand when you have already built your stack to his size. He wins here, he has 12k, you have 2k, and you gotta stack him 3x to get all his cash, other players notwithstanding. If you lose after c/c c/c, you stack is still a good size for when you DO have the hammer.

P.S. I don't mind the flop call at all.
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:09 AM
El Diablo El Diablo is offline
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Default Re: i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.

AZK,

I would check-call the turn. Sometimes lead.
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.

check-raising the turn turns your hand into a bluff.
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:06 AM
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Default Re: i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.

How can any of us possibly understand this hand better than you?

Some idiot donks have A2 here, some have the straight.
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:19 AM
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Default Re: i am [censored] awful, what do you do here.


man, you love to c/r-turn with strong hands on boards so dangerous where you only get action when you're beat--why?
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