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Old 05-09-2007, 10:54 AM
pdoran10 pdoran10 is offline
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Default 200 NL | QQ oop vs Big_Rob_48

Villain in this hand is Big_Rob_48. I have him at ~ 22/15/3 over 2000 hands. He views me as a solid TAG and we have not tangled at all lately.
I have seen him make a raise similar to this with a gutshot or air on the flop, as well as with strong draws and sets, so we can pretty much consider that his range + a few other hands.

I have heard him talk about raising for protection with pocket pairs on low flops too, so i cant really discount a lower non set pair out of his range.

EDIT: I guess his cold call on the button frequency is pretty high, so he can have a lot here...

I think i have decent equity against his range, but he really hasn't gotten out of line against me which makes this spot tough. What do you make of the large flop raise, and what is our plan for the rest of the hand. I was thinking call, and then shove any non diamond turn.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($84.30)
BB ($455.45)
UTG ($195.25)
Hero ($200)
CO ($324.80)
Button ($233.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $70</font>, BB folds, Hero ?
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Old 05-09-2007, 10:57 AM
Sciolist Sciolist is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL | QQ oop vs Big_Rob_48

If this were headsup, I would call and see what happens. He could easily be doing this for a free card, so I'd probably just check and let him take one if need be. That defines his hand pretty well, so you can check river and hope he bets his missed draw.

As this is three handed to the flop, I think you have to treat the reraise with a lot more respect, looking at it as a bet designed to stop people drawing cheaply at him. I think it might be a fold in that case.
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Old 05-09-2007, 10:59 AM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL | QQ oop vs Big_Rob_48

i push, you're behind to exactly 2 hands (makes it a bit closer that it's 3way)
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Old 05-09-2007, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL | QQ oop vs Big_Rob_48

stackoffaments, he's willing to do this with a gutshot or for 'protection' with his small pairs. i don't think you can keep folding this with that read, shove.
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Old 05-09-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL | QQ oop vs Big_Rob_48

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stackoffaments, he's willing to do this with a gutshot or for 'protection' with his small pairs. i don't think you can keep folding this with that read, shove.

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Old 05-09-2007, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL | QQ oop vs Big_Rob_48

i doubt he raises an underpair to the J in a 3way pot from what ive seen of him. headsup he might do that.

i think is range is :

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.044% 54.04% 00.00% 13911 0.00 { QdQh }
Hand 1: 45.956% 45.96% 00.00% 11829 0.00 { 66, 33, AcJc, AhJh, AsJs, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad2d, 8d6d, 7d6d, 7d4d, 6d5d, 6d4d, 5d4d, AcJh, AcJs, AhJc, AhJs, AsJc, AsJh }


so i push, i think you are slightly ahead of his range. which in english is:
sets, AJ, oesd+fd, gutshot straight draw+flush draw, pair+flush draws with up to 1 gapped suited connectors, and nut flush draw hands (ace rag diamonds)..ive seen him flat call my raises with A9/AT of diamonds type hands too which i think he would raise with aswell.
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL | QQ oop vs Big_Rob_48

I have a note on Big Rob that says he's a tag and I haven't seen him put a lot of money in without a hand. Still that doesn't mean he couldn't have a big draw (AKdd) or AJ here. I think I still push.
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