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Old 11-09-2007, 06:26 PM
MuresanForMVP MuresanForMVP is offline
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Default Re: 2007 Silver Slugger awards

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Doesn't look too bad, except for Hanley got jobbed.

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QFT, and I think I woulda given 3b to Braun because he had pretty much the same numbers even with 150 less ABs then Wright.

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Chipper Jones > Ryan Braun

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Chipper is killing Braun in OBP, i'll give him that.


But I'm a Ryan Braun homer cause I know his family. ROBBED!
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:27 PM
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Is this award less controversial and less based on popularity than others, like the gold gloves?

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Yes. In addition to the "less important" reason already mentioned, offensive is more easily distilled into statistical representations of value that are commonly dispersed and accepted. For example, OPS, while far from perfect, is fairly accurate and widely accepted, especially when one tries to identify a comparable defensive statistic.

Defensive measures of value are far less developed than offensive stats and also far less dispersed. Even the more advanced defensive measures sometimes substantially disagree, ala andruw jones, carl crawford, etc. (mostly because of the surprising large differences between the PBP data supplied by Stats and BIS).

Basically, its a lot easier to know who is good offensively than it is to know who is good defensively because of commonly available measures of value. The more asymmetrical the distribution of high quality information about a topic, the greater the divergence of opinions about the subject.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: 2007 Silver Slugger awards

Pujols> Prince
Hanley > Rollins
Miggy > Braun
Sizemore, Granderson and Ichiro are all really close.
Bonds >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>> Lee
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:16 PM
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Bonds >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>> Lee

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Not to mention Rowand and Dunn deserve it more than Lee as well.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: 2007 Silver Slugger awards

WTF where is Bonds and Adam Q. Dunnington?
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:37 PM
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victor martinez>posada
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:07 PM
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victor martinez>posada

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Um, no.

Posada: .338BA, 20 HRs, .426 OBP
V-Mart: .301BA, 25 HR, .374 OBP
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:09 PM
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116 rbi vs 90
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:19 PM
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116 rbi vs 90

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73.4 vs 55.0 VORP
.322 vs .291 EqA

Posada, and it's not even close.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:22 PM
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116 rbi vs 90

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apples vs. garbage dumps
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