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Old 11-30-2007, 10:47 PM
juttelstud juttelstud is offline
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Default Random Preflop Frequencies Question

This is a hand from the Stars 162. Somebody sent it to me, and my first question was why he did not reraise preflop and his response was that he felt RR'ing in this spot is really bad and that he flats here virtually always. My feelings were that vs. the bad players that frequent the 162 I'm usually trying to induce them into making a big mistake as they are not playing optimally preflop(or even very well) as well just trying to get value from my hand.

It's pretty important to notice OR's stack size as well. What are your thoughts and what would you say is your general % of reraising vs. flatting. Thanks

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t5380)
Hero (t2815)
SB (t4290)
BB (t2735)
UTG (t2520)
UTG+1 (t2835)
MP1 (t2845)
MP2 (t1495)
MP3 (t2085)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:59 PM
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Random Preflop Frequencies Question

in this hand i def 3 bet. 4x usually a sign of a strength
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Random Preflop Frequencies Question

i think i flat AA here most of the time, im never going to berate someone that repops AA here but i think i flat hands that are folding the flop enough to be flatting hands that i wont fold on the flop, if you dont set mine here and therefore never flat call here then repopping is for sure better, but if you're playing against the player rather than what you're likely to do then repop for sure

i think the worst is reraising expecting them to flat, maybe its me but i think you put most villians to a shove or fold decision and flatting will make them make worse decisions, that might be hero depenant though
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Random Preflop Frequencies Question

Matt,

I literally am 50/50 in this situation. There are some players who with this stack size will never fold after raising 4x, and others who will fold pre to a reraise but never fold the flop if they get any piece and always cbet if they are able to. With no reads, I will call half the time and rr the other half, simple as that.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:46 AM
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:52 AM
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just make it 360 he'll stack off with most hands he is x4 raising here.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:58 AM
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just make it 360 he'll stack off with most hands he is x4 raising here.

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Old 12-01-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: Random Preflop Frequencies Question

Your friend has a bad understanding of poker, saying that reraising is flat out bad is simply ridiculous. If you wanna call be my guest, but reraising is obviously completely fine and standard and it's what I would do the LARGE majority of the time against a typical random opponent.
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:31 AM
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Vs almost anyone this deep im raising to about 400 about 90% of the time in this particular spot.
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