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Old 12-01-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism

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Anyone seen Salman Rushdie around lately?

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Yes, he lives in Atlanta teaching at Emory.

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You miss the point.

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What point? That the CIA is whipping up Sudanese mobs into a frenzy against the wishes of the government of Sudan?
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism

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http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/i...=22&sp=true

Cliff notes: British teacher and her class name a teddy bear Mohammad, mobs form in Sudan demanding that she be killed.

There seem to be a lot of people in this forum who believe that if we just leave the Muslim world alone they'll stop attacking us. But do you really expect people who are willing to kill someone for merely naming a teddy bear Mohammad are going to just leave us alone? Of course not. These people are completely irrational and are bent on destroying Western civilization as we know it.

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If you went out and fought everybody that WANTED to hurt you would be dead. Please factor in the chances that they atually are able to do anything to you.



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Tell it to the families of the 215 colleagues of mine that died on 9/11.

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I never said don't fight them. I said don't fight them just because they want to hurt you. It might be correct to fight them but OP's analysis of why we should fight them was 100% wrong.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism

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http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/i...=22&sp=true

Cliff notes: British teacher and her class name a teddy bear Mohammad, mobs form in Sudan demanding that she be killed.

There seem to be a lot of people in this forum who believe that if we just leave the Muslim world alone they'll stop attacking us. But do you really expect people who are willing to kill someone for merely naming a teddy bear Mohammad are going to just leave us alone? Of course not. These people are completely irrational and are bent on destroying Western civilization as we know it.

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If you went out and fought everybody that WANTED to hurt you would be dead. Please factor in the chances that they atually are able to do anything to you.



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Tell it to the families of the 215 colleagues of mine that died on 9/11.

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However much I regret the death of 215 of your colleagues and the other few thousands, and don't in any way condone it, they do not come anywhere close to the numbers (500,000+) of Iraqis killed in excess of those that would have been killed under Sadam Hussein, since the US invasion.

Of course, you could argue that being your colleagues makes those people much more valuable than Iraqis. It is a view I don't share.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:17 AM
The once and future king The once and future king is offline
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Default Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism

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Okay, I get it, Americans are evil, blah, blah, even though we stopped two Holocausts and helped transform Germany and Japan into civilized countries despite the atrocities that they committed.

How many other countries have won wars without demanding territorial gain and spent their own money rebuilding the countries that attacked them?

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No one is saying that America is evil, they are just pointing out that not that long ago sections of western communities held beliefs that were deeply ignorant and deeply irrational but they were able to move forward without anyone dropping bombs on them.

As for mobs. Near where I live a mob attacked and set fire to a house that belonged to a pediatrician, because they heard the prefix of there job title and assumed that they were a pedophile. Mobs normally constitute the dumbest and most reactionary elements of society and I wouldnt want anyone using the latter mentioned mob to draw conclusions about the entirety of British society.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:29 AM
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:30 AM
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As for mobs. Near where I live a mob attacked and set fire to a house that belonged to a pediatrician, because they heard the prefix of there job title and assumed that they were a pedophile.

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When are you moving?
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:31 AM
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No one is saying that America is evil,

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Really? What forum are you reading?
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:32 AM
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And youre stupid enough to believe the 500,000 number, youre batting 1000 tonight.

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You mean you don't! Nothing I could add to this.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:33 AM
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I like the phrase Islamo-facism. I think Christopher Hitchens invented it?

Reason being it makes it perfectly clear that you are criticizing Islam based on moral grounds and for the antithesis of racist reasons. I can't stand people who call people racist for criticizing a religion.

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Like the charity workers who get their heads chopped off should learn.

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This is wrong on so many grounds. Did it cross your mind there are citizens of Muslim states that are oppressed by and like us opposed to the oppressors who need help of foreign aid workers?

Perhaps the more we HELP the oppressed the less oppressors there will be?
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:35 AM
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And youre stupid enough to believe the 500,000 number, youre batting 1000 tonight.

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You mean you don't! Nothing I could add to this.

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Good, dont add anything to it. The collection methodolgy to arrive at that figure has been totally debunked.

Youre on ignore, since you dont know what STFU means. Buh bye.
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