1-table S&Gs - your feedback requested

[DCJ311]

150/300 level isnt as big a deal as you think it is. More 10 and 18 player sngs are important, because the difference between 9 players and 10 players is significant in regards to rake. 18 player sngs start to become very beatable.

Rake is absurdly high for SNGs as well as 6-max sngs and HU sngs. Rake should be based upon how many hands you are dealt, so there's no reason why you should pay roughly the same rake for a SNG as an MTT.

[DCJ311]

Also the SNG leaderboard is a bad idea because people will share accounts. Better would be individual goal bonuses based on number of SNGs played per week/month, etc, if you're not willing to reduce the rake across the board. People who play high volume SNGs should get rewards aside from Supernova.

[Eosinophil]

Stars should be more micro-stakes friendly.
And as always, we're looking for a delicious Rakeback.

As for Micro-stakes friendly, 20% rakes for the $1 SnG's is outrageous.

What would also be nice is $1 HU SnGs and even 1c/2c HU tables.

There should also be $1 turbos. I believe currently the lowest turbo is $3?

[GtrHtr]

I'm a bit amazed at how little most in this thread realize how a 10 v 9 payout structure effects and has effected winrates. Everybody is just used to single digit roi's now I guess.

[The4thFilm]

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I'm a bit amazed at how little most in this thread realize how a 10 v 9 payout structure effects and has effected winrates. Everybody is just used to single digit roi's now I guess.

[/ QUOTE ]Why would 10 v 9 payout structure affect ROI?

[DCJ311]

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I'm a bit amazed at how little most in this thread realize how a 10 v 9 payout structure effects and has effected winrates. Everybody is just used to single digit roi's now I guess.

[/ QUOTE ]Why would 10 v 9 payout structure affect ROI?

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Why are 100% ROIs attainable in 1000 person tournaments but not 9 player tournaments? It's all relative. Increasing the player pool generally helps immensely.

[rwesty]

Being a 9-man tourney drops the possible ROI and makes the rake that much more of a factor. The rake is already taking away 30-90% of your edge against other players so any small changes really effect a players' ability to make money.

[Melchiades]

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oh btw, ...
and implement the bet pot button plz!

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no betpot plzzz!

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Why not? I find that the 'bet pot' button on UB causes fish to make terrible bet sizing errors, particularly early game.

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I think it's more often the other way around. Fish play closer to correct when they don't get to pick their bet sizes and just mash the pot button.

[KPL]

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oh btw, ...
and implement the bet pot button plz!

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no betpot plzzz!

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Why not? I find that the 'bet pot' button on UB causes fish to make terrible bet sizing errors, particularly early game.

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I think it's more often the other way around. Fish play closer to correct when they don't get to pick their bet sizes and just mash the pot button.

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Agree on this. Especially if they're raising after a limper or two

[HajiShirazu]

I don't like ten mans. Ten mans = less skill required since you end up folding more hands yet the sng takes the same amount of time, so there are less profitable plays to be made = less edge for the good player.