NL50 - TPTK w AK, standard?

Ramana · #1 10-01-2007, 07:34 PM

I have no stats on villain, but from what I've seen, I think he is the standard 18/12/2 tagfish. Does any other line make sense here or do we simply have to hope that villain holds AK aswell or overplays something?

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($28.50)
CO ($45.40)
Hero ($49.25)
SB ($13.49)
BB ($65.18)
UTG ($102.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, CO calls $5.

Flop: ($14.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $11, CO calls $11.

Turn: ($36.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $31.25 (all-in)

Ramana · #2 10-01-2007, 09:23 PM

bump

creamfillin · #3 10-01-2007, 09:29 PM

I think I check behind on the turn. The only thing we really beat at this point against a TAG's 3B calling range is like KJ which I don't see us squeezing out much more value from. He could have also flopped a straight with JT and there are just too many other ugly combinations.

Hiltonian · #4 10-01-2007, 09:42 PM

Check flop.

Ramana · #5 10-01-2007, 09:51 PM

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Check flop.

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care to elaborate why?

DonManuel · #6 10-01-2007, 09:54 PM

I like it

DerrtySlime · #7 10-01-2007, 09:56 PM

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Check flop.

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care to elaborate why?

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I'll take a shot. becaus eyou really don't want to make this pot big while your hand is only TPTK on a really bad board for value. Does a Queen ever call you? if you check the turn, you may be able to get value out of AQ or TT or something. Don't make this pot big.

DerrtySlime · #8 10-01-2007, 09:57 PM

Also, your hand does not look like a bluff in the slightest so i see no reason to shove.

mookboi · #9 10-01-2007, 10:08 PM

In my opinion, this is pretty standard. At least for me. I'm 3betting this preflop hoping to hit a K. I hit a K. Yay. Time to get the money in the middle. I don't see myself getting away from this hand, we are playing for top pair hands with 100BB stacks, I think flop & turn are standard. Yeah, he shows up here with crap like KQ or something with a 9, or JT every once in a while, but you charged him for that preflop. I shrug and move in as you did. The only spot I can really see deviating from your line, is on the turn. But, really, we have less than a PSB left, so I just get it in. I think if you are asking whether or not this is standard, or what you can do to avoid getting stacked over here, a lot of it depends on your read on the player and how decent he is. How often does he fold to flop cbets, flop bets, etc. What's his turn & river aggression. For example, if homeboy in question fold to flop bet like 85% of the time, and his river aggro factor is like .5 over a significant # of hands, I check behind on turn and fold to river bet. But if you don't have reads over a number of hands, and this is just your standard "tagfish" as you said, I stack off here.

BukNaked36 · #10 10-02-2007, 12:20 AM

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I think I check behind on the turn. The only thing we really beat at this point against a TAG's 3B calling range is like KJ which I don't see us squeezing out much more value from. He could have also flopped a straight with JT and there are just too many other ugly combinations.

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Dead on. Best you're getting is a split, so no reason to push it.