*** Official NY Mets Our OFFSEASON Has Come Thread ***

[hoyasnaxa]

And the Nats screw the Mets once again.

[JordanIB]

This sure as hell better be a precursor to another deal. We have 2 catchers and a glut of OFers. So we trade a chip for a C and an OFer.

I now have utterly zero confidence in Minaya's ability to make this team succeed. I think I said it earlier in this thread, it is becoming clearer that if the move isn't as obvious at throwing a boatload of money at Pedro or Beltran, he is utterly lost.

As someone said on another board, this offseason is becoming worse than the collapse.

[wh1t3bread]

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I now have utterly zero confidence in Minaya's ability to make this team succeed.


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I couldn't agree more. What little confidence I had in Minaya (even after last year's disastrous offseason) is now completely gone.

This team isn't necessarily worse going into 2008 after this trade. But we are going to start feeling the pain caused by trading Milledge, Bannister, Bell, Lindstrom, Owens & to a lesser extent Ring once Citi Field opens.

Oh...and this offseason isn't even close to being over yet. We still have yet to see Omar trade off the rest of our prospects to the lowest bidder.

[nutshot2]

wow guys, this is horrific. nothing much to say. my condolences, even though i laughed my ass off when i saw this deal.

[SuperUberBob]

Minaya started off well for the Mets but has really fizzled since then.

Trading away Milledge was stupid. Our prospects were likely our best chance at getting Johan Santana. Now Milledge is traded for two people whose names I never heard of.

[TomHimself]

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[Wynton]

I'll try and give Omar the benefit of the doubt for a second.

Presumably, Milledge has already been shopped all over the place. So, Omar may well know that Milledge has little value in the eyes of other teams (at least those with pitching).

Further, it is not hard to imagine that Milledge might qualify as one of those clubhouse cancer types.

Indeed, many of the trade rumors for the bigger names seem to focus on Carlos Gomez instead of Milledge.

Finally, I hear from a well-placed Nats fan (i.e., someone I just met 10 minutes ago) that Schneider really is quite good defensively, and not as bad as people think offensively.

There, that's my attempt to give Omar the benefit of the doubt.

[Wynton]

According to Metsblog, Jason Stark (fwiw) says the following:

“The Mets have been looking for a defensive-minded catcher who could lead a staff, and Brian Schneider does that as well as anyone. And Ryan Church is a better player than you’re giving him credit for. He’s better than a fourth outfielder, even though he might be more a 5-day-a-week kind of player than a 7-day -a-week kind of player. And Milledge, frankly, turned out to be overrated. HIs value had plummeted. For a team trying to win in the short term, like the Mets, I totally understand this trade, Now let’s sit back and see how good Milledge turns out to be.”

[wh1t3bread]

Grade Minaya's major trades since becoming GM after the 2004 season:

1. 11/18/2005 Acquired INF/OF Xavier Nady from the San Diego Padres in exchange for OF Mike Cameron.

2. 11/24/2005 Obtained 1B Carlos Delgado and cash from the Marlins for 1B Mike Jacobs, RHP Yusmeiro Petit and INF Grant Psomas.

3. 12/5/2005 Acquired C Paul Lo Duca from the Marlins for two players to be named (Dante Brinkley & Gaby Hernandez).

4. 1/4/2006 Acquired RHP Duaner Sanchez and RHP Steve Schmoll from the Dodgers in exchange for RHP Jae Seo and LHP Tim Hamulack.

5. 1/21/2006 Acquired RHP Jorge Julio and RHP John Maine from the Orioles in exchange for RHP Kris Benson.

6. 5/24/2006 Acquired RHP Orlando Hernandez from the Arizona Diamondbacks in exchange for RHP Jorge Julio.

7. 7/31/2006 Acquired RHP Roberto Hernandez and LHP Oliver Perez from the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for OF Xavier Nady.

8. 11/15/2006 Acquired OF Ben Johnson and RHP Jon Adkins from the San Diego Padres in exchange for RHP Heath Bell and LHP Royce Ring.

9. 11/20/2006 Acquired LHP Jason Vargas and LHP Adam Bostick from the Florida Marlins in exchange for RHP Henry Owens and RHP Matt Lindstrom.

10. 12/6/2006 Acquired RHP Ambiorix Burgos in exchange for RHP Brian Bannister from the Kansas City Royals.

11. 7/30/2007 Acquired 2B Luis Castillo from the Twins in exchange for nonroster C Drew Butera and nonroster OF Dustin Martin.

12. 11/20/2007 Acquired C Johnny Estrada from the Brewers in exchange for RHP Guillermo Mota.

13. 11/30/2007 Acquired RF Ryan Church and C Brian Schneider from the Washington Nationals in exchange for Lastings Milledge.

[metsandfinsfan]

what the [censored]

i am speechless

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