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Old 09-28-2007, 10:29 AM
Suigin406 Suigin406 is offline
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to be honest, i'm not sure how many parts are really there, this pitching is very old with pedro, duque and glavine...
all about pitching and it's getting old, offense is fine though

perez and maine will be decent, servicable at the least...
the young pitching has been a letdown for the most part as i was expecting good things out of them, but it may come yet...
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:35 AM
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I hope a failure to make the playoffs doesn't cause a gross overraction to the state of the team and franchise. It's not as if we're a team in crisis with no good parts.

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I agree that there are plenty of solid parts, but I disagree that there is much chance of an overreaction. I think it is much more likely that they will err on the side of making too few moves.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:14 AM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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to be honest, i'm not sure how many parts are really there, this pitching is very old with pedro, duque and glavine...
all about pitching and it's getting old, offense is fine though

perez and maine will be decent, servicable at the least...
the young pitching has been a letdown for the most part as i was expecting good things out of them, but it may come yet...

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The pitching staff blows, from the started to the middle relief to the closer.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:21 AM
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This team has no chutzbah no moxxy no grit no determination.

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This is not true and is what makes the collapse so disappointing. The offense has put up run numbers that should have been big enough to win many more games than they have, and has engineered some pretty significant comebacks that were ruined one way or another by the bullpen. The gutless aspect to this rests overwhelmingly with the pitching staff, mostly with the piece of [censored] bullpen that cannot get anyone out and has blown numerous sizeable leads the offense has given them.
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:32 PM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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This pitching staff has no chutzbah no moxxy no grit no determination.

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This is not true and is what makes the collapse so disappointing. The offense has put up run numbers that should have been big enough to win many more games than they have, and has engineered some pretty significant comebacks that were ruined one way or another by the bullpen. The gutless aspect to this rests overwhelmingly with the pitching staff, mostly with the piece of [censored] bullpen that cannot get anyone out and has blown numerous sizeable leads the offense has given them.

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Old 09-28-2007, 01:19 PM
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my vote: A+
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:36 PM
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In 1994 the Expos had a pretty big lead in August and failed to make it
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:45 PM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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In 1994 the Expos had a pretty big lead in August and failed to make it

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Didnt they cancel the World Series that year because of the strike? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:59 PM
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mike,

minor details.
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:58 PM
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BP says it would be the second worst collapse of all time (speaking from odds to make the playoffs --> out).
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